Is Lomachenko one of these?.......

[Willow The Wisp]

I think Ivich nailed it in regards to Loma spending too long in the amateurs relative to others who build up a pro resume. I wonder to what extent we would think differently about Kovalev had he been given the decision in Ward I (which is how many viewed it, and not a stretch). I don't think I'd include Chocolatito in that list, he had beaten Estrada and was undefeated until he was nearly 30- which aint bad for that weight class.

Fair rebuttal

[Willow The Wisp]

Patently Public Perambulation.

Lol....also a fair rebuttal, to him.

[Ivich]

Lol....also a fair rebuttal, to him.

You have history?

[Willow The Wisp]

You have history?

What do you mean?

[The Old LefHook]

When a man does not fight enough, you may NEVER know.

[Ivich]

What do you mean?

Previous history with QB,indicated by his rude remarks towards you.

[QueensburyRules]

Patently Public Perambulation.

- - Prepubescently Puerile...

[Nash out]

Previous history with QB,indicated by his rude remarks towards you.

Everybody has a history with Queen. Queen likes too run riot around here and is unwilling to learn, but don't worry, Ivich, the Great Nash has recently started mentoring Queen, hopefully along with Bilbo, who was also assigned as Queen's mentor. Nash is on the case and is putting in the work on Queen. Don't you worry. Nash out - boxing expert.

[Ivich]

- - Prepubescently Puerile...

You sure are!

[Ivich]

Everybody has a history with Queen. Queen likes too run riot around here and is unwilling to learn, but don't worry, Ivich, the Great Nash has recently started mentoring Queen, hopefully along with Bilbo, who was also assigned as Queen's mentor. Nash is on the case and is putting in the work on Queen. Don't you worry. Nash out - boxing expert.

I've started to get you ,I believe I was hasty in my original opinion.