Why Duran Quit

[mrbig1]

I think Duran is full of ****. Get it, full of ****.

[QueensburyRules]

It's the regular broadcast video you find on YouTube in various versions. Around the 36th minute - well after the fight's over - Duran is seen without gloves, that's right, surrounded by his consoling team for long moments. He doesn't look in a particular urgency to deliver the dump, or anything else, but just dejected. Perhaps my perception is wrong, but I stress: if that is the problem and it's me in the ring, I quit fighting and go running to the toilet.

- - How long does an 8 gauge double barrel ******* blast last?

Ask Randy Gordon, NJ commish in the dressing room.

[Tatabanya]

- - How long does an 8 gauge double barrel ******* blast last?

Ask Randy Gordon, NJ commish in the dressing room.

I did read Gordon's colourful story. Here's what he says:

"As the gauze and tape were being cut off his hands, Duran gestured to his stomach. He talked to Eleta in Spanish and very fast. I was able to pick out words and phrases such as “No bueno” (“Not good”) and “muy enfermo” (“very sick”).

Suddenly, Duran moaned. Still wearing the tape and gauze on one hand, he bolted towards the bathroom. Seconds later, he could be heard relieving himself. It sounded like an inflated balloon being released across a room. Perhaps two minutes later, Duran emerged from the bathroom. He was smiling. If, at that moment, the gloves could have been put back on and the fight resumed, I am sure he would have gone back out."

But then, later on in the article, he writes:

"What really did happen? Why did Duran tell Leonard–and the world–to “kiss off” that night in New Orleans? Why did Duran–who, as a pre-teen in Panama, fought hour-long battles against teenagers and men for the “rights” to a street corner to shine shoes and sell newspapers–turn his back on the legend he was supposed to be and disgrace himself with the utterance of but two little words? “No Mas.”

Duran has told many people many different stories. He has talked about having had severe cramps and he has denied having cramps. He has told some reporters that his family had received death threats and to other reporters he has said that stories of death threats are preposterous. He has told many others that he was just frustrated and still others that he thought Leonard, with his constant movement and taunting, was not fighting like a man, so he decided to quit rather than chase “a coward.” He also has said that his preparation for the bout was so poor that he came into the ring with nothing to offer Leonard. In June of 1981, while training for his comeback, he admitted to me that he used diuretics in New Orleans. To many others who have questioned him, he has also vehemently denied taking diuretics."

So, while Gordon had a direct experience of Duran's delivery of the big dump, he himself appears unsure about the sh_ite as the actual reason of his quitting...

[BattlingNelson]

This thread delivers!

[Tatabanya]

This thread delivers!

The thread where s_hit REALLY happens!

[GhostofDempsey]

I read Duran was having severe cramps from gorging himself with steak after the weigh-in. He had to starve and drain himself to make weight for the rematch, which he explained he wasn't fully prepared for as he was in the middle of partying and over-indulging when word came down of the rematch.

[The Old LefHook]

Heavy taint is on Leonard's victory, whereas there was no taint whatsoever on their first fight where Duran prevailed. The first fight is viewed as the gauge between the two fighters.

We can all be certain that if Leonard had been given the decision in the first fight, Duran would not have seen a rematch out of Ray for years. Leonard never really wanted anything to do with his toughest opponents again. Hearns is the only one he HAD to fight again that hadn't beaten him. And he took his sweet time. Benitez and Hagler were not about to get rematches.

[QueensburyRules]

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I did read Gordon's colourful story. Here's what he says:

"As the gauze and tape were being cut off his hands, Duran gestured to his stomach. He talked to Eleta in Spanish and very fast. I was able to pick out words and phrases such as “No bueno” (“Not good”) and “muy enfermo” (“very sick”).

Suddenly, Duran moaned. Still wearing the tape and gauze on one hand, he bolted towards the bathroom. Seconds later, he could be heard relieving himself. It sounded like an inflated balloon being released across a room. Perhaps two minutes later, Duran emerged from the bathroom. He was smiling. If, at that moment, the gloves could have been put back on and the fight resumed, I am sure he would have gone back out."

But then, later on in the article, he writes:

"What really did happen? Why did Duran tell Leonard–and the world–to “kiss off” that night in New Orleans? Why did Duran–who, as a pre-teen in Panama, fought hour-long battles against teenagers and men for the “rights” to a street corner to shine shoes and sell newspapers–turn his back on the legend he was supposed to be and disgrace himself with the utterance of but two little words? “No Mas.”

Duran has told many people many different stories. He has talked about having had severe cramps and he has denied having cramps. He has told some reporters that his family had received death threats and to other reporters he has said that stories of death threats are preposterous. He has told many others that he was just frustrated and still others that he thought Leonard, with his constant movement and taunting, was not fighting like a man, so he decided to quit rather than chase “a coward.” He also has said that his preparation for the bout was so poor that he came into the ring with nothing to offer Leonard. In June of 1981, while training for his comeback, he admitted to me that he used diuretics in New Orleans. To many others who have questioned him, he has also vehemently denied taking diuretics."

So, while Gordon had a direct experience of Duran's delivery of the big dump, he himself appears unsure about the sh_ite as the actual reason of his quitting...

- - The topic was a no go on public tv then and maybe still now. They couched it in cramps. And it was Howie who said No Mas, not Duran. When he dismissed Ray with a wave of his hand, the most politically correct translation was I'm not fighting that clown." Even BS filters****** today.

So, first fight and Duran humiliates Ray in front of his fans and wife. 2nd fight he embarrasses Ray who about now figures he's never gonna win.

[Ben Bolt]

He [Duran] also has said that his preparation for the bout was so poor that he came into the ring with nothing to offer Leonard.

That’s what I’ve been told about the months leading up to the rematch. And it’s no excuse for Duran – if you have a World title fight on your schedule, you better prepare yourself.

I don’t think it had matter, though. Leonard, the natural heavier fighter and changing his (******) strategy from the 1st encounter, was the wrong guy for Duran to mess with.

[Rockin']

2nd fight he embarrasses Ray who about now figures he's never gonna win.

WTF are you talking about? .............Rockin'