RIP Ron Stander The Council Bluffs Butcher

[The Old LefHook]

But that only works for a forgiving God . . . Half the Christian population believes in an authoritative God, one willing to punish . . . Half these people beat their children.

Use to be you could use religious denominations to ID one's political affiliation, e.g. Catholic = ********; Methodist = **********. But that consistency seems to have disappeared.

Today you can use the terms authoritative; benevolent; and distant God and get a better feel for one's political commitment.

A belief in a(n) . . .

Authoritative God = Conservative
Benevolent God = Conservative or *******
Distant God = *******

Excellent point, Pepper. The reasons for assuming that the values promoted in the Bible as God's are God's are no better than the ones for assuming God considers Stalin a more advanced human being than Gandhi. God did a little more than spank bad children. Just ask the

Amorites
Canaanites
Ba-shan-ites
Midianites
Perizzites
Hivites
Jebusites
Makkedahites
Libnah
Lachish
Eglon
Hebronites
Debir
Gibeonites

all of whom God exterminated, according to (Ahem!) The Good Book. Just what were the examples and what the counter-examples of the Good Book, then? You have to wonder if these were even God's own children, or the children of some other gods. The Good Book may indicate that God made an inferior race of men first that had to be destroyed to pave the way for the next experiment with Adam and Eve, or that there was an inferior race from somewhere already running around on earth when God made Adam and Eve.

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Okay, all that aside, Stander would be an awful guy to meet in a street fight. He has the advantage of not being chiseled, though beefy, so you are not fully aware of what you are actually getting yourself into. The rest of us are not good enough to be sparring partners for Ron, and indeed not even good enough to fight him in a bar. He would simply backhand most bar fighters to sleep as an annoyance, even some good ones, is my guess. Then there are those he might have to stand up for.

What is dust the past tense to?

[QueensburyRules]

Excellent point, Pepper. The reasons for assuming that the values promoted in the Bible as God's are God's are no better than the ones for assuming God considers Stalin a more advanced human being than Gandhi. God did a little more than spank bad children. Just ask the

Amorites
Canaanites
Ba-shan-ites
Midianites
Perizzites
Hivites
Jebusites
Makkedahites
Libnah
Lachish
Eglon
Hebronites
Debir
Gibeonites

all of whom God exterminated, according to (Ahem!) The Good Book. Just what were the examples and what the counter-examples of the Good Book, then? You have to wonder if these were even God's own children, or the children of some other gods. The Good Book may indicate that God made an inferior race of men first that had to be destroyed to pave the way for the next experiment with Adam and Eve, or that there was an inferior race from somewhere already running around on earth when God made Adam and Eve.

* * * * *

Okay, all that aside, Stander would be an awful guy to meet in a street fight. He has the advantage of not being chiseled, though beefy, so you are not fully aware of what you are actually getting yourself into. The rest of us are not good enough to be sparring partners for Ron, and indeed not even good enough to fight him in a bar. He would simply backhand most bar fighters to sleep as an annoyance, even some good ones, is my guess. Then there are those he might have to stand up for.

What is dust the past tense to?

- - just ask Sodomites

[Willie Pep 229]

- - just ask Sodomites

"So that we may know them."