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  • George Foreman's walking uppercut

    Nice and simple technical breakdown, plus highlights of Foreman using it against Cooney from the Top Rank video library.




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    Plus a good article on how Big George was the product of a "Gang of Champs."


    George Foreman: Student of the Greats
    Through the years George Foreman was able to train with **** Saddler, Sandy Saddler, Archie Moore and Sonny Liston, and each had an effect on his method. We take a look at how his style changed over time.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jp7x...-of-the-greats

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    • #3
      Foreman was so crafty and it makes sense. I think Walcott used it or created the walking swagger uppercut. I love these old moves because it takes such confidence to use in a high stakes fight. While other boxing methods are more like "train like a robot so when your nerves get to you, you just fight on auto pilot". To think in there and do moves like a swagger uppercut can only be done by someone very confident and relaxed.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by them_apples View Post
        Foreman was so crafty and it makes sense. I think Walcott used it or created the walking swagger uppercut. I love these old moves because it takes such confidence to use in a high stakes fight. While other boxing methods are more like "train like a robot so when your nerves get to you, you just fight on auto pilot". To think in there and do moves like a swagger uppercut can only be done by someone very confident and relaxed.
        George should have trained his son Monk better, maybe could have made something of himself in the ring.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by them_apples View Post
          Foreman was so crafty and it makes sense. I think Walcott used it or created the walking swagger uppercut. I love these old moves because it takes such confidence to use in a high stakes fight. While other boxing methods are more like "train like a robot so when your nerves get to you, you just fight on auto pilot". To think in there and do moves like a swagger uppercut can only be done by someone very confident and relaxed.
          Yeah, there's a real craftiness to Foreman that I don't think I appreciated fully before. Everything from his cross arm defense to the way he used his jab to open up Frazier for a hook or uppercut.

          They're not overly complex but he's got a bag full of skillful tricks when you actually sit down and study him. Easy to overlook due to his bone crunching power, maybe.

          But he was trained by some very good fighting men and it shows. They left their mark.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

            Yeah, there's a real craftiness to Foreman that I don't think I appreciated fully before. Everything from his cross arm defense to the way he used his jab to open up Frazier for a hook or uppercut.

            They're not overly complex but he's got a bag full of skillful tricks when you actually sit down and study him. Easy to overlook due to his bone crunching power, maybe.

            But he was trained by some very good fighting men and it shows. They left their mark.
            I think when he realized in his comeback he was only going to win on savvy and ring Iq he switched to the cross arm guard. His big arms and high trunks covered a lot. And he didnt have the agility to make use of the saddler sticky hands style he used before, as well as the gloves being harder to open.

            https://*************/watch?v=rKmvzN1moMo

            in this video you can see him sparring in that saddler style. Manipulating his oponents balance with his arms constantly, deflecting shots and even creating openings. Also notice the constant subtle headmovement. Doesnt go too crazy with the ducking unless hes a shorter fighter, just rolls and uses angles and his shoulders. Even frazier claimed its better because you are always able to keep on eye on your oponent - shots that really hurt are the ones you dont see. This is why Joe Louis as well has underated defense.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

              Yeah, there's a real craftiness to Foreman that I don't think I appreciated fully before. Everything from his cross arm defense to the way he used his jab to open up Frazier for a hook or uppercut.

              They're not overly complex but he's got a bag full of skillful tricks when you actually sit down and study him. Easy to overlook due to his bone crunching power, maybe.

              But he was trained by some very good fighting men and it shows. They left their mark.
              Nah... George was just big and and and... so guys are bigger now so George would be small see? (Sarcasm alert).

              You can see Archie Moore's craftwork and Liston's marks all over Big George! Fantastic fighter. I also love how he cuts the ring down, somethng Liston didn't do the same way at all... yet both guys manage to create the same pressure without chasing and walking into big shots while they corner their opponent. I am of the opinion that people are very hard on Foreman regarding losing to Young and Ali. Young was a fantastic fighter who could easily have been declared the winner against Norton (I think he won that one) and fought an epic fight against Foreman. Young was just a lot better than people credit him with being!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                Foreman was so crafty and it makes sense. I think Walcott used it or created the walking swagger uppercut. I love these old moves because it takes such confidence to use in a high stakes fight. While other boxing methods are more like "train like a robot so when your nerves get to you, you just fight on auto pilot". To think in there and do moves like a swagger uppercut can only be done by someone very confident and relaxed.
                Walcott gets credited with so mant innovations! the irony is he claimed to have taken those same innovations, and the name of the original Walcott, Barbados Joe Walcott... a virtual middle weight who fought heavies! I mean jeez... if you want your kid to grow up an innovative Scientist name him Einstein, but for an innovative pugalist? Name him Walcott!
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