best left hook in history?

[QueensburyRules]

Nope. Straight is always shorter distance from point A to point B. A Hook is actually Two straight punches... Initially it travels straight, then makes a 90 degree to the target.

- - Straight left jab ain't a power punch. Point in fact there ain't no pure straight punches in that every punch has something of an arc to it.

Insert point A and point B intersecting the point on U noggin.

[Bret_Hart]

Danny garcia

[markusmod]

Danny garcia

The Rock's ex-wife I hope?

[dreamroom]

I think the right cross is the hardest shot someone can throw, or the left to the body due to mechanics. By cross I don’t mean the straight right hand that Ali popularized - which is more like a jab only its thrown with the fighters dominant hand (stronger) and you can step with it coming from the back foot. The original cross was thrown from the centerline with the shoulder loose and dangling almost free fall from the joint. Tons of leverage.

In my situation, and this is just me, my OHR is kind of like a cross married an OHR and had a kid. lol My OHR has the same trunk rotation and rear foot drive, but instead of the classic, stiff looking arm motion I see a lot of fighters use, I let it go like I'm throwing a fastball. It's very loose, as you pointed out. When I'm hitting the heavy bag I usually use 18oz gloves and it sounds like a gunshot when it lands right. I can agree the cross can have as much power as the OHR. When Hearns knocked out Duran, it looked 2 throw away jabs to the body, followed by a vicious cross, right on the button. Boom! and Duran was in the dream room.

[dreamroom]

Many Traditionalists consider any "lead" blow a set up. Is that correct? I don't know... Its just a way of classifying punches in boxing.

It depends on the context. When I say, "lead hook", I'm using it in the context of "lead hand/rear hand". I'm an orthodox fighter, so my lead hand is my left hand, and my rear hand, or "power hand is my right hand. When it comes to setting up a punch, at least in my case, I may take several rounds setting up a punch. For instance, I might throw a body jab, and consciously drop my level a little and step slightly to my left. I'll see how he reacts. I may do this 10 - 12 times a round. I'll throw it a little harder each time. Even an experienced fighter doesn't like to get his body beat on, but an inexperienced fighter will start guarding his gut/ribs. Once I get him used to this action, I'll feint the same motion, only this time my left only comes out enough to get my upper body in position to rotate and unload an overhand right. I'm still dropping my level a little, and stepping slightly off line to my left, just throwing a different punch, hopefully to an unprotected chin.

[billeau2]

- - Straight left jab ain't a power punch. Point in fact there ain't no pure straight punches in that every punch has something of an arc to it.

Insert point A and point B intersecting the point on U noggin.

The fact that we can only approximate that which is perfectly straight does not change the fact that a straight punch, all things being equal, will arrive at its target before a punch with an arc... it is physics and elementary my dear Watson.

It is also why virtually any art involved with "hitting" teaches how to hit straight first.

[dreamroom]

The fact that we can only approximate that which is perfectly straight does not change the fact that a straight punch, all things being equal, will arrive at its target before a punch with an arc... it is physics and elementary my dear Watson.

It is also why virtually any art involved with "hitting" teaches how to hit straight first.

Agree.
" A straight right is thesecond part of a one-two combo, often thrown quickly following the jab. Whereas a jab is a quick hit, and often used as a way to test an opponent's defenses, a right cross uses full extension and creates a powerful blow."
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=a7df6...BibG93Lg&ntb=1

[markusmod]

Agree.
" A straight right is thesecond part of a one-two combo, often thrown quickly following the jab. Whereas a jab is a quick hit, and often used as a way to test an opponent's defenses, a right cross uses full extension and creates a powerful blow."
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=a7df6...BibG93Lg&ntb=1

This I like.

[QueensburyRules]

The fact that we can only approximate that which is perfectly straight does not change the fact that a straight punch, all things being equal, will arrive at its target before a punch with an arc... it is physics and elementary my dear Watson.

It is also why virtually any art involved with "hitting" teaches how to hit straight first.

- - Which is why U involved wif virtual vs real.

There are unmeasurable physical unknowns in any fighter involved that may well see the wide ark of a hook arriving faster. That U is limited to a 2 dimensional lineal format as the Holy Grail, well, the Holy Grail ain't two dimensional...

[them_apples]

- - Straight left jab ain't a power punch. Point in fact there ain't no pure straight punches in that every punch has something of an arc to it.

Insert point A and point B intersecting the point on U noggin.

it shouldn’t have an arc to it. The shot comes out oerfectly straight and turns over in the shoulder. I think it was called the “shoulder whirl” back in the day. The big mistake people make it turning the shot over too soon. In fact almost everyone does. Sometimes you have to, to land it the way you want, but a standard straight up the middle doesnt turn over until at the very end on contact - and turns through the shoulder. Combine this with a very subtle trunk rotation and they should all align and connect in unison.

on youtube, a good tutorial was made by kostya zhu

classic noob errors:1) turning the shot over too soon which flares the elbow out, slows the punch down (engages the deltoid too soon), ruins the bodies natural coordination and eliminates the snap the twist at the end causes. The body rotation is doing nothing at this point outside if just bringing the punch in range. You may feel it in your body like you are hitting harder, but your oponent won’t

and….over rotation and emphasis on the trunk. Everyones first instinct is to think all the power comes from trunk rotation. But really, power is a subtle collective effort of coordination and anchoring yourself to the ground. Sometimes less is more.