The U Guys [HWs]

[billeau2]

Great one! Man....Lennox Lewis was soooo damn good. But none of us (at least none of my immediate family and friends) ever wanted to believe it. I don't know what it was about him. Maybe it's because British Boxers always seemed kinda soft to us. Or he seemed like he had a fake personality. Was he Jamaican? Was he Canadian? He didn't have that American bad ass that Tyson had going for him. He just seemed like a "herb" trying hard to be cool. When he lost to McCall, it was like an "I told you so." When he lost to Rahman, it was like an, "I told you so." Then the dude comes back and makes one of them shlt himself mentally, and the other physically. I remember we were all rooting hard for Vitaly to take him out. I think the short notice switch didn't help Lennox, and he didn't seem to be in the greatest shape. He seemed to be exhausted. But damn he dug deep and hit that dude with everything including the kitchen sink. I could have sworn Vitaly's head popped off after one of those hellacious uppercuts.

Deep down we all knew he was going to beat Tyson's ass, but no one wanted to believe it. I remember on the knockdown, my brother in law began screaming, "He pushed him down!!!" I calmly replied..."But Mike didn't get up."

He just stared blankly at the screen, and in a subdued voice calmly said of Lewis: "I hate you."

Lol I experienced the same, in the same city. There was a real dislike for the guy... I always liked him so I did quite well betting others.

[billeau2]

I find the greatest example of selling a fighter by the medias to be Primo Carnera. People of the time bit on that hook, line and sinker.

I'm assuming that this 'U' stands for undefeated.........Rockin'

yeah... Canero was looking the part lol. Tough looking, chiseled out of the mountains... But not much of a true threat after all.

[Ben Bolt]

The U Guys (Everyone was certain no mere men could beat them, until they did.)

John L. Sullivan
James J Jeffties
Jack Dempsey
Joe Louis
Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson

In my time, Foreman’s defeat to Ali was the shocker. About Tyson, we waited for a good technician to expose him. Maybe Douglas wasn’t, but he did.
It’s quite remarkable though, that when an ‘unbeatable’ boxer loses his first fight, it often is followed by a losing run.

I like the quote someone mentioned in an HBO documentary, “in every fight, you leave a piece of yourself in the ring".
When too many pieces are vanished, you are no more the hunter but the quarry.

[Willie Pep 229]

In my time, Foreman’s defeat to Ali was the shocker. About Tyson, we waited for a good technician to expose him. Maybe Douglas wasn’t, but he did.
It’s quite remarkable though, that when an ‘unbeatable’ boxer loses his first fight, it often is followed by a losing run.

I like the quote someone mentioned in an HBO documentary, “in every fight, you leave a piece of yourself in the ring".
When too many pieces are vanished, you are no more the hunter but the quarry.

Regarding Tyson I think Foreman's loss made us wiser - I think every new generation needs to get a first hand education that there is no such thing as unbeatable.

All through Tyson's run I would hear people around me tell how 'no one can beat this guy' and would think 'yea sure-, just wait' - back in '74 I lost 20 bucks on Foremam thinking that way.

[markusmod]

Regarding Tyson I think Foreman's loss made us wiser - I think every new generation needs to get a first hand education that there is no such thing as unbeatable.

All through Tyson's run I would hear people around me tell how 'no one can beat this guy' and would think 'yea sure-, just wait' - back in '74 I lost 20 bucks on Foremam thinking that way.

Every guy is unbeatable until he gets beat.

[Willie Pep 229]

Every guy is unbeatable until he gets beat.

That's literal; my assessment is fan perception. Only the very few are perceived as U Guys, the title has to be earned, (and then they get beaten.)

[markusmod]

That's literal; my assessment is fan perception. Only the very few are perceived as U Guys, the title has to be earned, (and then they get beaten.)

Touche.

[QueensburyRules]

- -As soon as Givens and DKing got their slimy hooks into Tyson I knew the end was near. He was too finely tuned mentally and physically to stay the course without some kind of stabilizing force to keep him from unraving outside the Ring.

[Willie Pep 229]

- -As soon as Givens and DKing got their slimy hooks into Tyson I knew the end was near. He was too finely tuned mentally and physically to stay the course without some kind of stabilizing force to keep him from unraving outside the Ring.

Not being cheeky - I knew it was over for Tyson when I saw the Barbra Wa-Wa interview with Givens and her pet Mike Tyson. That was the most disgusting castrating of a powerful man by two serious bit ches. A triumph for feminism.

When she patted Tyson on the knee and told him to wait to talk I was screaming at the TV my support for spouse abuse.

Ok I guess I got cheeky - but I'm serious I realized Tyson was finished as a fighter - he was never going to gain back his manhood unless he killed that bit ch. Instead he settled out of court.

Probably on Don Kings advise; after being freed from Robyn Givens he was now in the safe and nurturing hands of Don and Carl King. -- Like I said his career was already finished he just didn't know it.

[travestyny]

Not being cheeky - I knew it was over for Tyson when I saw the Barbra Wa-Wa interview with Givens and her pet Mike Tyson. That was the most disgusting castrating of a powerful man by two serious bit ches. A triumph for feminism.

When she patted Tyson on the knee and told him to wait to talk I was screaming at the TV my support for spouse abuse.

Ok I guess I got cheeky - but I'm serious I realized Tyson was finished as a fighter - he was never going to gain back his manhood unless he killed that bit ch. Instead he settled out of court.

Probably on Don Kings advise; after being freed from Robyn Givens he was now in the safe and nurturing hands of Don and Carl King. -- Like I said his career was already finished he just didn't know it.

I thought he tried to kill her with "the best punch he ever threw"

TYSON SAYS HE BOUNCED EX-WIFE OFF WALLS WITH HIS BEST-EVER PUNCH

https://www.deseret.com/1989/6/24/18812820/tyson-says-he-bounced-ex-wife-off-walls-with-his-best-ever-punch

She got some whiskers on her apparently.