Holyfield vs Frazier who wins

[jdawg5221]

holyfield wins by first round knockout,frazier would not beat anyone in the top 50 today

Dude, @ Heavy Weight Frasier takes him... Left Hook to the jaw in the middle to late rounds...

[mrboxer]

have you ever seen evander fight look at how well he has done against bigger men and took all their hard shots,frazier is smaller than holyfield,does not have holyfields speed,power and most importantly his chin,frazier would get walloped,if frazier fought in todays era with all the stiffs it has he would be lucky to get a win

[them_apples]

have you ever seen evander fight look at how well he has done against bigger men and took all their hard shots,frazier is smaller than holyfield,does not have holyfields speed,power and most importantly his chin,frazier would get walloped,if frazier fought in todays era with all the stiffs it has he would be lucky to get a win

Frazier had a wicked left hook, Holyfield had a great left hook as well but Fraziers was mean.

Size is very similar prime for prime. Holyfield being a tad bigger at about 209-210. Frazier backed up 215 lb 6'3 Ali all night so this fight will be a war.

Very hard to pick, close fights IMO.

[TheGreatA]

have you ever seen evander fight look at how well he has done against bigger men and took all their hard shots,frazier is smaller than holyfield,does not have holyfields speed,power and most importantly his chin,frazier would get walloped,if frazier fought in todays era with all the stiffs it has he would be lucky to get a win

Have you ever seen Joe Frazier fight?

Holyfield started at 178 lbs, reigned at 190 pounds and had his prime as a heavyweight at 205 lbs in my opinion. I don't see how he is the "bigger man" aside from perhaps the old version of Holyfield who frequently came in at 215.

I don't think that Holyfield would necessarily be able to handle Frazier as well as the younger version however.

I can't really see either of their chins coming to play here.



Don't you think Frazier's style could trouble Holyfield?

[bojangles1987]

I can't see either fighter getting KOed, Holyfield's pride I think would work against him. The pressure by Frazier would make Holyfield want to brawl, which he did quite a bit when he shouldn't have. Frazier would give Evander a beating inside and win a close decision.

[mrboxer]

i saw almost all of fraziers fights and he is not impressive yes he did beat ali once and got pumelled the other two times,he got inialated against foreman,he was losing against chuvalo when he thumbed chuvalo in the eye and it forced the ref to stop the fight,i will say frazier had a good left hook but with his height you need a lot more tools,look at tommy burns he was smaller than frazier but he had a good jab fast hands and good foot work,burns would beat frazier too

[TheGreatA]

i saw almost all of fraziers fights and he is not impressive yes he did beat ali once and got pumelled the other two times,he got inialated against foreman,he was losing against chuvalo when he thumbed chuvalo in the eye and it forced the ref to stop the fight,i will say frazier had a good left hook but with his height you need a lot more tools,look at tommy burns he was smaller than frazier but he had a good jab fast hands and good foot work,burns would beat frazier too

Frazier didn't thumb Chuvalo, he broke Chuvalo's eye orbit with a left hook. He wasn't losing the fight either, Chuvalo was game and always came back with his own punches but he was taking a beating.

Before the successive Ellis, Foster and Ali I fights in which Frazier knocked his opposition down with the left hook, Frazier was mostly known for his powerful left jab and his two-handed attack to the body. His uppercut on the inside is a very underrated punch as well and at times he could score heavily with the right.

Frazier would slaughter Tommy Burns who was 5'7 and weighed 168 pounds.

[Bushidō]

Good fight but I would put my money on Frazier.

[RightCross94]

Today's top 50:

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
Nikolay Valuev
Ruslan Chagaev
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Povetkin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Samuel Peter
Tony Thompson
Chris Arreola
Oleg Maskaev
Alexander Dimitrenko
Denis Boytsov
Hasim Rahman
Ray Austin
Vladimir Virchis
Albert Sosnowski
Sam Sexton
Kevin Johnson
Fres Oquendo
Monte Barrett
Francesco Pianeta
Evander Holyfield
Chazz Witherspoon
Oleg Platov
Dominick Guinn
Manuel Quezada
Cedric Boswell
Michael Grant
James Toney
Danny Williams
Gbenga Oloukun
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Timur Ibragimov
Oliver McCall
Matt Skelton
Lamon Brewster
Francois Botha
Demetrice King
Taras *****ko
Lisandro Ezequiel Diaz
Derric Rossy
Tye Fields
Malik Scott
Jason Estrada
Andrew Golota
Shane Cameron
Martin Rogan

I would maybe back Frazier to beat some of those guys now at age 65.

[blacklodge]

Frazier had a tendency to get buzzed early, and despite Holyfield's medium punch (at best) Frazier might not make it out of the early rounds. But I doubt it. Frazier breaks Holy down and finishes him in 10. Using the comparison of Holy-Quai I is notable, since I thought Quai hurt Holyfield a few times and deserved a decision.
I can't help but think that despite how well known Frazier is, he is one of the most misunderstood and misinterpreted fighters of all time.