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  • #21
    frazier had a very good chin in my opinion, just look at thrilla in manilla, both are great fighters with good chins, but holyfield would win with his better experience

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Big Idiot View Post
      frazier had a very good chin in my opinion, just look at thrilla in manilla, both are great fighters with good chins, but holyfield would win with his better experience
      I don't know where this fallacy started about Frazier having a bad chin.

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      • #23
        No one is saying he has a bad chin just that Holyfield has a better one.

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        • #24
          Id take Frazier, as said before Holyfield's warrior mentality would be more of a liability than a plus. Also I believe Frazier's body punches and ripping hooks would slowly tear Holyfield down, tiring him out.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
            Holyfield vs Frazier who wins ? prime of coarse. It would probably look something like Qawi vs Holyfield stylistically only Joe puts on more pressure than Qawi imo.
            Dwight Muhammad Qawi wasn't a hard hitter though, he was a respectful hitter but he didn't carry that one punch type of power, where he could turn a fight around like Joe Frazier, as it shows with Dwight Muhammad Qawi only having a 47 percent KO record.

            And the difference is Joe Frazier would badly shake up, Evander Holyfield unlike Dwight Muhamamd Qawi. And remember this isn't at Cruiserweight, remember Evander Holyfield was shaken up badly, by a very poor mans version of Joe Frazier aka Bert Cooper at Heavyweight.

            I'll take Joe Frazier by decision, i think a prime Joe Frazier aka the 1971 version. Is a step above Dwight Muhammad Qawi, and certainly better than the 1996 version of Mike Tyson and Bert Cooper.

            It would be a great fight but i see Joe Frazier's, slightly better workrate and better power being the difference here.
            Last edited by Burning Desire; 08-31-2009, 10:38 AM.

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            • #26
              holyfield wins by first round knockout,frazier would not beat anyone in the top 50 today

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Burning Desire View Post
                Dwight Muhammad Qawi wasn't a hard hitter though, he was a respectful hitter but he didn't carry that one punch type of power, where he could turn a fight around like Joe Frazier, as it shows with Dwight Muhammad Qawi only having a 47 percent KO record.

                And the difference is Joe Frazier would bad;y shake up, Evander Holyfield unlike Dwight Muhamamd Qawi. And remember this isn't at Cruiserweight, remember Evander Holyfield was shaken up badly, by a very poor mans version of Joe Frazier aka Bert Cooper at Heavyweight.

                I'll take Joe Frazier by decision, i think a prime Joe Frazier aka the 1971 version. Is a step above Dwight Muhammad Qawi, and certainly better than the 1996 version of Mike Tyson and Bert Cooper.

                It would be a great fight but i see Joe Frazier's, slightly better workrate and better power being the difference here.
                Agree with you.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by mrboxer View Post
                  holyfield wins by first round knockout,frazier would not beat anyone in the top 50 today
                  I'd be interested to hear the names of 50 HW's all time that could beat Frazier.
                  You think 50 of the current tomato cans could survive with Frazier?
                  Love to hear the names, I assume Chaguev will be one of them lol. Valuev, Ruiz??
                  Can't wait, I suggest you look at other Frazier fights other than against Foreman.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by mrboxer View Post
                    holyfield wins by first round knockout,frazier would not beat anyone in the top 50 today
                    Today's top 50:

                    Wladimir Klitschko
                    Vitali Klitschko
                    David Haye
                    Nikolay Valuev
                    Ruslan Chagaev
                    Eddie Chambers
                    Alexander Povetkin
                    Juan Carlos Gomez
                    Samuel Peter
                    Tony Thompson
                    Chris Arreola
                    Oleg Maskaev
                    Alexander Dimitrenko
                    Denis Boytsov
                    Hasim Rahman
                    Ray Austin
                    Vladimir Virchis
                    Albert Sosnowski
                    Sam Sexton
                    Kevin Johnson
                    Fres Oquendo
                    Monte Barrett
                    Francesco Pianeta
                    Evander Holyfield
                    Chazz Witherspoon
                    Oleg Platov
                    Dominick Guinn
                    Manuel Quezada
                    Cedric Boswell
                    Michael Grant
                    James Toney
                    Danny Williams
                    Gbenga Oloukun
                    Odlanier Solis
                    Alexander Ustinov
                    Timur Ibragimov
                    Oliver McCall
                    Matt Skelton
                    Lamon Brewster
                    Francois Botha
                    Demetrice King
                    Taras *****ko
                    Lisandro Ezequiel Diaz
                    Derric Rossy
                    Tye Fields
                    Malik Scott
                    Jason Estrada
                    Andrew Golota
                    Shane Cameron
                    Martin Rogan

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
                      Today's top 50:

                      Wladimir Klitschko
                      Vitali Klitschko
                      David Haye
                      Nikolay Valuev
                      Ruslan Chagaev
                      Eddie Chambers
                      Alexander Povetkin
                      Juan Carlos Gomez
                      Samuel Peter
                      Tony Thompson
                      Chris Arreola
                      Oleg Maskaev
                      Alexander Dimitrenko
                      Denis Boytsov
                      Hasim Rahman
                      Ray Austin
                      Vladimir Virchis
                      Albert Sosnowski
                      Sam Sexton
                      Kevin Johnson
                      Fres Oquendo
                      Monte Barrett
                      Francesco Pianeta
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Chazz Witherspoon
                      Oleg Platov
                      Dominick Guinn
                      Manuel Quezada
                      Cedric Boswell
                      Michael Grant
                      James Toney
                      Danny Williams
                      Gbenga Oloukun
                      Odlanier Solis
                      Alexander Ustinov
                      Timur Ibragimov
                      Oliver McCall
                      Matt Skelton
                      Lamon Brewster
                      Francois Botha
                      Demetrice King
                      Taras *****ko
                      Lisandro Ezequiel Diaz
                      Derric Rossy
                      Tye Fields
                      Malik Scott
                      Jason Estrada
                      Andrew Golota
                      Shane Cameron
                      Martin Rogan
                      An abundance of riches.
                      Nice to see Botha in there, retire for 5 years put on 2 stone beat 3 tomato cans and ranking at 40.
                      What a sad state the HW division is in.
                      Yeah Frazier would beat some of those, he's 65 but has kept in reasonable condition.

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