Why is there no ring film of Harry Greb?

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  • The Old LefHook
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    #31
    Originally posted by NChristo-
    Fought in the short era where silver nitrate film was used to record fights and it degrades swiftly over time. Have fights of before and soon after but it's a tragedy really and misfortune that he just happened to fight in those years
    An actual scholarly answer? It sounds good, but is it true?

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    • cfang
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      #32
      Yes is degradable film during the era he fought in and also he fought so often he didnt have many big build up fights like dempsey for example. Walker and tunney fights were filmed but most of his fights weren't. Greatest fighter of all time imo.

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      • billeau2
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        #33
        Originally posted by cfang
        Yes is degradable film during the era he fought in and also he fought so often he didnt have many big build up fights like dempsey for example. Walker and tunney fights were filmed but most of his fights weren't. Greatest fighter of all time imo.
        You and Christo raise some great points... Kudos. Pittsburgh has always been a kind of ****** for great fighters... I think maybe at that time, given the world, New York and Pittsburgh were somewhat remote. If Pittsburgh was a kind of backwater, where great fighters flourished it would explain a similar mystery, similar time as well: We have very little footage of Charley Burley as well, the one piece of footage was taken in Oakland California I believe.

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        • HOUDINI563
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          #34
          All the “evidence” you need is on ESB. Mendoza is notorious for his constant degradation of great black fighters...SRR, Johnson, Louis, Ali and never ending praise of Wlad, Vitali and Jeffries.

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            #35
            Pathe France covered and filmed the Dempsey Firpo bout as well as Dempsey Sharkey. If you look on their website you can find a very clear film of Sharkey being counted out filmed at a different angle than the well known film of this fight. This angle shows that Sharkey was not grabbing at his groin trying to get up...just struggling to get his body, which was not responding, to get up.

            Ten or so years ago I contacted Pathe France asking whether they had complete film of both these bouts. The response was disappointing..., all they had was what was on their web site.

            The well known film of the Dempsey Firpo bout has been heavily edited. It would be the find of the century to locate the Pathe film of these bouts as the quality appears much better and would illustrate Dempseys skills to a high degree.

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            • Dr. Z
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              #36
              Originally posted by travestyny

              How did you own me when I already told you that the only thing they have was a few rounds of the Firpo fight. LMAOO





              Now give us the full Wills vs. Firpo fight. I'll be waiting.

              You aren't fooling anyone, son. You're a disgrace.


              Ps. Why do you keep asking the same question I've answered about 5 times now? You have a weird way of ducking. Best wins: Lanford, McVey, Jeannette. Now that makes 6 times I've answered. Now let's get that full Firpo Wills footage

              DUDE, you did not show me where I said I have the full fight, because I did not say it. Repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. You are sad poster if you think it will. I already plated your mug into the dirt. Lying about things won't save you!

              Okay, so a 20 year old 140 pound " Langfrd," a novice Jeannette with a sometimes losing record, and a teenaged Sam McVey are his best wins?

              Seriously? It's not like he fought any of them when they were close to their best at heavyweight. Only took you a while to answer. Should we explore these a bit more?

              I already posted plenty of footage, but just for your small mind, here is Wills vs. Firpo footage. 11:00+ Minutes of it. Note I never said full fight, and you cant find me saying it, which makes you a liar. Got it? Get it?

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                #37
                Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                All the “evidence” you need is on ESB. Mendoza is notorious for his constant degradation of great black fighters...SRR, Johnson, Louis, Ali and never ending praise of Wlad, Vitali and Jeffries.
                I don’t give a schit about some alleged character on another website. Take it up with that poster there. If you accuse someone of being racist you back it up with facts here or stfu.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dr. Z


                  DUDE, you did not show me where I said I have the full fight, because I did not say it. Repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. You are sad poster if you think it will. I already plated your mug into the dirt. Lying about things won't save you!

                  Okay, so a 20 year old 140 pound " Langfrd," a novice Jeannette with a sometimes losing record, and a teenaged Sam McVey are his best wins?

                  Seriously? It's not like he fought any of them when they were close to their best at heavyweight. Only took you a while to answer. Should we explore these a bit more?

                  I already posted plenty of footage, but just for your small mind, here is Wills vs. Firpo footage. 11:00+ Minutes of it. Note I never said full fight, and you cant find me saying it, which makes you a liar. Got it? Get it?

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQsbfN0C0E
                  Explain your quotation when I asked you how much you've seen of the Firpo fight, liar


                  "Some of my fights are not for upload."

                  You're gonna pretend that you weren't responding to this when you said it? Oh....look at me saying they packaged the fights into 11 minutes. Hmmmmmm.

                  Originally posted by travestyny

                  Come on, bruh. How many minutes of the Firpo fight did you see?

                  If you have these full fights, post them up, because I've only managed to see edited pieces of two rounds against Firpo. In fact, I remember these three fights, along with training footage, all being packaged into 11 minutes.
                  How did you respond to that?

                  Originally posted by Dr. Z


                  Hello there. Unfortunately some fights in my collection are not for uploading as those were the rules I agreed to when I obtained them.

                  Firpo looks awful, and Wills pretty average outside of the knockdown. Will looks pretty poor vs. Madden and that was was before Firpo.
                  The question is, what do you have of the Firpo and Madden fights that is not on youtube and not for upload, Dr. Z? WAITINGGGGG.


                  That's not 11 minutes of Firpo, moron. It's exactly what I said it was. 2 edited rounds of Firpo. You aren't fooling anyone. You lied and tried to pretend you saw more of that fight. EXPOSED!!!!!!!!


                  So again, how much of that Firpo fight did you see? Exactly what I thought liar. You need to accept your permanent ban
                  Last edited by travestyny; 03-23-2021, 05:18 PM.

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                  • travestyny
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                    #39
                    Hey Dr. Z, no one is going to believe anything else you say here after you've been exposed in the link below, you fraud


                    https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/n...-wills-footage


                    You're done. And it's over,.
                    Last edited by travestyny; 03-23-2021, 05:44 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      I don’t give a schit about some alleged character on another website. Take it up with that poster there. If you accuse someone of being racist you back it up with facts here or stfu.
                      Will you actually do anything about it if facts are provided? You haven't in the past.

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