Who Do You Rank Higher Mike Tyson or George Foreman ?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #81
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

    Oh that's a shame - did he really blow up to over 300 lbs or are you speculating he would.

    I was thinking the other day, almost started a new thread, as to which HW Champions got to live the best post fight lives; which the worst.

    Bowe a candidate for one of the worst and was thinking Lewis for one of the best.

    He comes across not only still lucid, but cultured as well. I thought he would be the type of man to stay in shape.
    - - 256 in his last fight after a 4 week precamp in England followed by a full 8 week camp in America in fighting shape.

    Could be as high as 350 since he don't strip down for a public weigh in anymore. Pretentiously intelligent and cultured like he was in his prime.

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    • HOUDINI563
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      #82
      Originally posted by Ropeee

      Ali made all his opponents look better than they really were. Frazier, Norton, Patterson, Foreman, Liston, Lyle, Young, Folley, Bonavena, Quarry, Cleveland have all been mythologized to be far superior than they actually were. In reality they are the peers of Brewster, Thompson, Austin, Mavrovic, Mercer, Tua, Byrd, etc.
      Alis resume is no better than any other great dominant HWT champ. But Ali's era got and still gets the most media attention and exposure. So his myth and resume are distorted.
      Ridiculous. Ali is rated the greatest of all heavyweight champions for a reason. One of those reasons is the high level of his opposition. Name one heavyweight from the 80’s or 90’s that showed the skill of bobbing and weaving that Frazier exhibited. Just one example.

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      • Soccer69^
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        #83
        I think George Foreman's resume nicks this argument.

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          #84
          Originally posted by HOUDINI563

          Ridiculous. Ali is rated the greatest of all heavyweight champions for a reason. One of those reasons is the high level of his opposition. Name one heavyweight from the 80’s or 90’s that showed the skill of bobbing and weaving that Frazier exhibited. Just one example.
          Mike tyson? Tell me 1 good slicky fighter who Ali beat

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          • StarshipTrooper
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            #85
            Foreman. Wins over in-prime Frazier, Norton, and Lyle trump anything on Tyson's resume. Not Tyson's fault the '80s were weak, but you can't give him credit for beating top fighters when there weren't any around for him to beat. Breaking it down by in-ring ability the only thing Tyson has on Foreman is hand and foot speed. I've said it before: Tyson is now criminally underrated.....but I can't see him over Foreman.

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              #86
              Originally posted by StarshipTrooper
              Foreman. Wins over in-prime Frazier, Norton, and Lyle trump anything on Tyson's resume. Not Tyson's fault the '80s were weak, but you can't give him credit for beating top fighters when there weren't any around for him to beat. Breaking it down by in-ring ability the only thing Tyson has on Foreman is hand and foot speed. I've said it before: Tyson is now criminally underrated.....but I can't see him over Foreman.
              Pre-Douglas Tyson I'd give a puncher's chance, but still would side with Foreman.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #87
                Originally posted by markusmod

                Pre-Douglas Tyson I'd give a puncher's chance, but still would side with Foreman.
                - - Boys, need I remind thee and thou that exact scenario was playing out according to the all time Valhalla boxing script before being shot down by The Fates in a cruel twist of murderous International Politics?

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                • Ropeee
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by StarshipTrooper
                  Foreman. Wins over in-prime Frazier, Norton, and Lyle trump anything on Tyson's resume. Not Tyson's fault the '80s were weak, but you can't give him credit for beating top fighters when there weren't any around for him to beat. Breaking it down by in-ring ability the only thing Tyson has on Foreman is hand and foot speed. I've said it before: Tyson is now criminally underrated.....but I can't see him over Foreman.
                  Spinks>Norton Frazier Lyle lmao Ruddock>Lyle
                  Holmes
                  Spinks
                  Smith
                  Tucker
                  Ruddock 2x
                  Williams
                  Berbick
                  Golota
                  Biggs
                  Tubbs
                  Bruno 2x
                  Better than
                  Norton
                  Frazier 2x
                  Lyle and LHW
                  CHUVALO

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                  • StarshipTrooper
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Ropeee
                    Spinks>Norton Frazier Lyle lmao Ruddock>Lyle
                    Holmes
                    Spinks
                    Smith
                    Tucker
                    Ruddock 2x
                    Williams
                    Berbick
                    Golota
                    Biggs
                    Tubbs
                    Bruno 2x
                    Better than
                    Norton
                    Frazier 2x
                    Lyle and LHW
                    CHUVALO
                    Come back when you've watched more than two fights from before 1999. That list of yours is complete shlt. The only way anbody could post something that moronic is if he were a troll. Which is what I'm thinking you are. Now get the phuck out of my sight ,,!,,

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                    • StarshipTrooper
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                      #90
                      Like I said a few days ago. I'm not going round and round with phuckheads anymore: I'm telling them to phuck off and dropping them in my ignore bin.

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