Jack Johnson & Jack Dempsey Had A Secret Fight In 1921?

[HOUDINI563]

The fantasy fight was one in a series of fantasy fights. It was not a report regarding a real encounter.

[Marchegiano]

Off topic, but relevant . . . I am a Jack the Ripper geek . . . for decades it was believed that the Whitechapel fiend had fled to Central America. This was based on the discovery of several San Salvador newspaper articles from the 1890s which described a series of almost identical murders. It wasn't until the 1980s when money and opportunity funded by a new interest in the Ripper murders resulted in a historian finally traveling to El Salvador to try an squeeze out the truth once and for all.

As it turned out the articles were just Spanish reprints from the local London newspapers, with the names of the victims and locations changed to local names, e.g. Annie became Maria; London, San Salvador. What we still don't know is how the San Salvadorian newspaper was offering these articles, as a truth or merely as fictional entertainment.

Well isn't that something.

So, I never actually got to the fight level in a gym, because my father passed and left me with too much responsibility to fit proper training in, but, when I was sparring and considering my amateur prospects I was pretty dead set on going by Jack The Ripper Dempsey.

I still think it's a cool name and I'm not sure why the practice of stage names or recycling names went away.

Anyway, the ripper was one of the funniest murder mysteries of all time. I hear they solved the case with DNA but it wasn't ever the mystery end of Jack I was fascinated with. It's the mix of what has to be called at least clever with pretty glaring idiocy behind it. For example, the goulston street graffito, wtf? A seriously deranged man.

[Marchegiano]

The fantasy fight was one in a series of fantasy fights. It was not a report regarding a real encounter.

Been a while bud, glad to see you back abouts.

[Willie Pep 229]

Well isn't that something.

So, I never actually got to the fight level in a gym, because my father passed and left me with too much responsibility to fit proper training in, but, when I was sparring and considering my amateur prospects I was pretty dead set on going by Jack The Ripper Dempsey.

I still think it's a cool name and I'm not sure why the practice of stage names or recycling names went away.

Anyway, the ripper was one of the funniest murder mysteries of all time. I hear they solved the case with DNA but it wasn't ever the mystery end of Jack I was fascinated with. It's the mix of what has to be called at least clever with pretty glaring idiocy behind it. For example, the goulston street graffito, wtf? A seriously deranged man.

That's funny, Like so may things Ripper the DNA turned out to be bogus; just another money making con.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Quote function MIA, but March quoting the title of some grade school video ain't even grade school proof. The only proof we have is an interview by a credible boxing scribe with the elderly Dempsey a few years before his passing and a scrapbook with the clippings of the fight that generated Lew' research. We know Ray Pearson wrote the article as another credible scribe who also dabbled in fantasy articles, sorta like a credible biographer dabbling in detective and romance novels using historical characters. I've seen no proof that any of this stuff did or did not occur and March changing the nature of his disclaimer = Dubious Logic. No matter truth or fiction, the fight and circumstances are sheer brilliance seldom found in any publication in tapping into the fighters known fight history and characters with The devilish Doc Kearns thrown in the witches brew.

[ShoulderRoll]

- -Quote function MIA, but March quoting the title of some grade school video ain't even grade school proof. The only proof we have is an interview by a credible boxing scribe with the elderly Dempsey a few years before his passing and a scrapbook with the clippings of the fight that generated Lew' research. We know Ray Pearson wrote the article as another credible scribe who also dabbled in fantasy articles, sorta like a credible biographer dabbling in detective and romance novels using historical characters. I've seen no proof that any of this stuff did or did not occur and March changing the nature of his disclaimer = Dubious Logic. No matter truth or fiction, the fight and circumstances are sheer brilliance seldom found in any publication in tapping into the fighters known fight history and characters with The devilish Doc Kearns thrown in the witches brew.

I just used the quote function on you, seems to be working fine.

The fight never happened. Give it up.

[billeau2]

- -Quote function MIA, but March quoting the title of some grade school video ain't even grade school proof. The only proof we have is an interview by a credible boxing scribe with the elderly Dempsey a few years before his passing and a scrapbook with the clippings of the fight that generated Lew' research. We know Ray Pearson wrote the article as another credible scribe who also dabbled in fantasy articles, sorta like a credible biographer dabbling in detective and romance novels using historical characters. I've seen no proof that any of this stuff did or did not occur and March changing the nature of his disclaimer = Dubious Logic. No matter truth or fiction, the fight and circumstances are sheer brilliance seldom found in any publication in tapping into the fighters known fight history and characters with The devilish Doc Kearns thrown in the witches brew.

Typical mistakes made by those who do not understand logical inference: "Ive seen no proof that any of this stuff did or did not occur," Well queenie one cannot prove a negative. We cannot reason that "because one cannot prove that pink polka dotted elephants do not exist, they must be there." That statement much like the idiot who stated it is the very definition of "Dubious logic."

This fight would be extra-ordinary. This means that proof of such would have to be likewise. Like a witness, like physical proof, a ticket, something in the location, etc. Just assuming that Pearson was depicting an actual event, because he did sometimes IS NOT PROOF IDIOT! lol.

I personally do not claim to know if this fight took place but would assume from what we know that it did not.

[billeau2]

I just used the quote function on you, seems to be working fine.

The fight never happened. Give it up.

Oh yeah!!! prove that it did not (being sarcastic). Queenie logic at its best.

[ShoulderRoll]

Oh yeah!!! prove that it did not (being sarcastic). Queenie logic at its best.

How did you quote me? Queenie says the quote function is MIA?

[billeau2]

How did you quote me? Queenie says the quote function is MIA?

If Queenie says it it must be so (poof! quote dissapears) lol.