Does anyone on here think Muhhamad Ali is overrated?

[RightCross94]

He's just a scuzzy little troll who just gets his little two incher off on pissing people off. He locks onto the fighters that people admire and tries to rip them down.....he does the same thing under Princepoophead except he rips Frazier under that name. I ignored the turd a long time ago.

Poet

i know this is a very cliched thing to say...but the guy must have no life...

[Slimey Limey]

You still haven't proven that he actually quit. It's about the same as "princemanspoper" saying that Frazier quit against Ali, it's only his opinion which has no real facts to back them up. Both fights were stopped due to the fighters being unable to continue.


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As I said, bring up one example of anyone other than you stating that Louis quit and I might believe you.

Here's one post I found from way back:



Here's more:





So did Joe Louis.

You're calling what Robinson did an act? Ringside doctors, viewers, experts and officials all disagree with you. I'm afraid you're on your own with that.



My point is not that he was or wasn't a moron, my point is that he wasn't a quitter nor a coward for what happened to him in the Maxim fight. I'd agree if you said that him being dehydrated and being unprepared for the conditions he was about to fight under were mostly his own fault.

That's not what we are arguing about however.



You chose not to respond to this:

You don't "prove" a fighter quits. Almost all the cases of fighters quitting are opinions. It doesn't take a blind ****** to see that Liston quit, Tyson quit, Duran quit etc. For every case there are excuses, and SGR and Louis are no diffirent seeing as how you've made every excuse in the book for these lads. You're basicely trying to force me to agree with your opinion which doesn't work, mate. I'd rather agree with a 90 year old who has only heard their fights on the radio back in his time than a biased, bitter, close minded idiot such as you.

I should bring an example of people saying Louis quit? See that's where you're mistaking me for being an internet loser like you that spends hours upon hours upon hours searching threads, posts etc. You ever notice I only reply to you whenever I feel like it? I do whatever I want, ****, and doing a bunch of childish homework just to please you is a no no for me. The point is that Louis quit, period.

Yes I'm saying Salty Gay Robinson put on an act, I said that since the beginning. Keep up the pace lad. He was trying to find a way out. That's how I see it.

And that's not the point I was tring to get out of you, mate. I'm talking about something else here you broken English having wanker. The fact that you 1-Never actually critisize SGR for making these absolutely ******ed mistakes which you claim cost him the match in the long run and 2- Only are interested in having people pity the **** and make excuses for him and 3- Take all the credit away from Maxim when it was HE that stopped Salty GAY and was going to KO him. Get that through your thick skull. This is not about you believing he was a coward or not, that´s another thing.

And I did respond to that post.
1- There was only a 1 day diffirence between the last post and all the other posts we were having back and forth. You or me would often respond after 1 day so this was barely any diffirent. Plus like I said, that thread was on top of the thunderdome for like a week so it was impossible for an obsessed loser with so time on his hands like you to have missed it. THAT is what you choose not to respond to every time I have to repeat this to you.
2-I already told you that it's almost always not possible to "post facts" about a fighter actually quitting on his own will. The fact that I believe GAY quit obviously hurts your feelings so much since you won't let it go.
3-Yes you did quit in that argument obviously since you ran away from that thread. Hurts doesn't it mate? You thought everyone would forget about that thread, didn't you?
4-Aww what's the matter mate, you can't take it?

[Slimey Limey]

i know this is a very cliched thing to say...but the guy must have no life...

Couldn't have thought of anything more original innit, stickey mickey malone or Poet or whoever you are?

[Slimey Limey]

And what do you think you're doing posting on one of my threads? Well it will be the last time. BYE Toffe Teeth

Um, Yes and you have still failed to provide any evidence linking me with slimey limey or any other user account on this forum as a possible alt.Give it up poet, You're a paranoid delusional old man who cannot take criticism of your favourite fighters yet you have no problem doing the exact same thing to other particular fighters

Lads, this is the though guy that shows up everytime to give his cheerleading 2 cents in every thread.

[TheGreatA]

You don't "prove" a fighter quits. Almost all the cases of fighters quitting are opinions. It doesn't take a blind ****** to see that Liston quit, Tyson quit, Duran quit etc. For every case there are excuses, and SGR and Louis are no diffirent seeing as how you've made every excuse in the book for these lads. You're basicely trying to force me to agree with your opinion which doesn't work, mate. I'd rather agree with a 90 year old who has only heard their fights on the radio back in his time than a biased, bitter, close minded idiot such as you.

Obviously. But those are very obvious "quitjobs". Louis on the other hand was knocked down and out after a twelve round beating while Robinson had to be carried out after suffering from heat exhaustion.

I'm not going to force you to agree with me. But do think twice before calling either of them quitters or cowards for what they've done in the boxing ring, because both of them have shown trendemous heart more than once.

I should bring an example of people saying Louis quit? See that's where you're mistaking me for being an internet loser like you that spends hours upon hours upon hours searching threads, posts etc. You ever notice I only reply to you whenever I feel like it? I do whatever I want, ****, and doing a bunch of childish homework just to please you is a no no for me. The point is that Louis quit, period.

That's right. You've never been one to actually back your opinions up with facts. Sorry for requesting such an impossible feat.

Yes I'm saying Salty Gay Robinson put on an act, I said that since the beginning. Keep up the pace lad. He was trying to find a way out. That's how I see it.

That's your opinion indeed.

Doctors, ringside viewers, boxing experts and officials saying Robinson was severely dehydrated and in no condition to continue = a fact.

And that's not the point I was tring to get out of you, mate. I'm talking about something else here you broken English having wanker. The fact that you 1-Never actually critisize SGR for making these absolutely ******ed mistakes which you claim cost him the match in the long run and 2- Only are interested in having people pity the **** and make excuses for him and 3- Take all the credit away from Maxim when it was HE that stopped Salty GAY and was going to KO him. Get that through your thick skull. This is not about you believing he was a coward or not, that´s another thing.

Again I said that Robinson not being prepared for the extreme conditions he was about to fight under was not the smartest move by him and one that he should not be excused for. If you had said that Robinson shouldn't be excused for losing because of this then I'd be inclined to agree. But you called him a coward.

[RightCross94]

Couldn't have thought of anything more original innit, stickey mickey malone or Poet or whoever you are?

thats why i said it was a cliched thing to say, but obviously a very true statement

[GJC]

I should bring an example of people saying Louis quit? See that's where you're mistaking me for being an internet loser like you that spends hours upon hours upon hours searching threads, posts etc. You ever notice I only reply to you whenever I feel like it? I do whatever I want, ****, and doing a bunch of childish homework just to please you is a no no for me. The point is that Louis quit, period.

So no proof or sources or anything other than a rant then?

Yes I'm saying Salty Gay Robinson put on an act, I said that since the beginning. Keep up the pace lad. He was trying to find a way out. That's how I see it.

And you are medically trained to diagnose that and refute the evidence of the doctors?
Why would he want a way out he was winning the fight handily?
Maxim didn't get near him until he was in obvious distress not caused by Maxim.

I'm talking about something else here you broken English having wanker.

Sorry could you explain English having wanker? I know how important English and its grammer is to you so could you clarify. He has English means he speaks English?

Take all the credit away from Maxim when it was HE that stopped Salty GAY and was going to KO him.

Maxim the well known KO artist? Maxim deserves credit for outlasting SRR and preparing himself better for the fight for sure the rest is nonsense.

So would you say Gerald McClellan quit against Benn then? Would you call that cowardice?

Rant as much as you like GreatA has put forward his case with aboundant evidence you have just ranted. I respect GreatA as a knowlegable poster who makes a huge contribution to these forums. I might not agree with all of his opinions but I have found you can debate your disagreements with him courteously. If you learn some manners and maybe to stop showhorning your hate for Louis and Robinson into every unrelated forum then you might enjoy some of the respect GreatA enjoys

[Slimey Limey]

Obviously. But those are very obvious "quitjobs". Louis on the other hand was knocked down and out after a twelve round beating while Robinson had to be carried out after suffering from heat exhaustion.

I'm not going to force you to agree with me. But do think twice before calling either of them quitters or cowards for what they've done in the boxing ring, because both of them have shown trendemous heart more than once.



That's right. You've never been one to actually back your opinions up with facts. Sorry for requesting such an impossible feat.



That's your opinion indeed.

Doctors, ringside viewers, boxing experts and officials saying Robinson was severely dehydrated and in no condition to continue = a fact.



Again I said that Robinson not being prepared for the extreme conditions he was about to fight under was not the smartest move by him and one that he should not be excused for. If you had said that Robinson shouldn't be excused for losing because of this then I'd be inclined to agree. But you called him a coward.

Obviously I will call them quitters or cowards for something they've done(except for when they are old and such, like I will excuse Tyson for his quitting). And obviously I won't ignore the times they have shown heart either, but this is about wether or not they are. It started because some wanker tries to imply Ali had a bit of quitter in him, so I respond that their hero's actually quit unlike Ali. SGR actually quit, there is no buts of ifs here. If you try to use the argument that he didn't take care of himself before the fight, like MAXIM did since he had a brain, then it's even worse imo. Either way he deserves criticsm, so he deserved everything I called him. With Louis it's just so fookin obvious that he did not even try to get up at the end because he was discouraged. And the fact that you ignore the things I've pointed out gives my accusation even more ground. Like I said, i'm not the type of person to give a ****load of effort to find a post like you do, mate. But it's irrelevant wether there are others who agree with me or not. This is a pro Louis forum so it is expected.

And GJC, you did a no mas the last time we debated so it's best you go cheerleading the way Poet does, before I accept your challenge and make you shut your mouth yet again, mate. You're too easy.

[GJC]

And GJC, you did a no mas the last time we debated so it's best you go cheerleading the way Poet does, before I accept your challenge and make you shut your mouth yet again, mate. You're too easy.

Err it didn't really happen did it slimey only in your imagination, but hey post the link and let everyone share your triumph LOL. Btw when you talk drival and someone corrects you with facts and you keep repeating it and they reply with more facts when this goes on and on and eventually they stop replying it doesn't mean you've won LOL. Mind you probably think your winning this debate with greatA. next alt you create call it tex Cobb be very apt, durable,amusing but adds nothing to boxing.

[JAB5239]

Err it didn't really happen did it slimey only in your imagination, but hey post the link and let everyone share your triumph LOL. Btw when you talk drival and someone corrects you with facts and you keep repeating it and they reply with more facts when this goes on and on and eventually they stop replying it doesn't mean you've won LOL. Mind you probably think your winning this debate with greatA. next alt you create call it tex Cobb be very apt, durable,amusing but adds nothing to boxing.

Funny **** my friend!!