Vitali's punching power

[them_apples]

I'm curious how hard he supposedly hits, because an older Lewis didn't seem to mind getting hit by him. He took some big hits early on but the rest of the fight he seemed to have become used to it. A lot of Klit's fights seem to be just from breaking his opponents down, I have a strong feeling it's because they just don't move their heads and would rather eat his average right hand all night long. There is nothing spectacular about his right hand.

Not a huge fan of Lewis either, but had a rematch happened or in Lewis' prime I think it would have ended much worse.

[Benncollinsaad]

I'm curious how hard he supposedly hits, because an older Lewis didn't seem to mind getting hit by him. He took some big hits early on but the rest of the fight he seemed to have become used to it. A lot of Klit's fights seem to be just from breaking his opponents down, I have a strong feeling it's because they just don't move their heads and would rather eat his average right hand all night long. There is nothing spectacular about his right hand.

Not a huge fan of Lewis either, but had a rematch happened or in Lewis' prime I think it would have ended much worse.

Well youre wrong! He has kayoed far more opponents than Lewis. **** Lewis. There wasn't really much difference between the '03 Lewis and the prime Lewis, it's all BS. Lewis almost lost to Ray Mercer for god's sake!

I'm sick and tired of this Lewis propaganda. The man got awarded the WBC belt TWICE and suddenly he's like a top 5 ATG!

[TheGreatA]

I think his brother has more one punch knockout power but Vitali is more likely to score a KO due to being more aggressive. He is adept at breaking down opposition not only physically but mentally inside the distance, thus his knockout record (which is inflated by the poor opposition he fought early on in his career).

Wladimir himself had a trendemous knockout record until his devastating losses to Sanders and Brewster. Since then he has been more likely to go into the later rounds.

[Benncollinsaad]

I think his brother has more one punch knockout power but Vitali is more likely to score a KO due to being more aggressive. He is adept at breaking down opposition not only physically but mentally inside the distance, thus his knockout record (which is inflated by the poor opposition he fought early on in his career).

Wladimir himself had a trendemous knockout record until his devastating losses to Sanders and Brewster. Since then he has been more likely to go into the later rounds.

First of all, the loss to Brewster wasn't DEVASTATING, it was su****ious. And second, he DID avenge that loss.

[TheGreatA]

First of all, the loss to Brewster wasn't DEVASTATING, it was su****ious. And second, he DID avenge that loss.

Great job at missing my point. His loss to Brewster was devastating, everyone pretty much counted him and his boxing career out at that point.

Only a style change into a more cautious fighter saved his career. This is the reason why he doesn't KO people like he used to but he still has more power than his brother Vitali.

[Benncollinsaad]

Great job at missing my point. His loss to Brewster was devastating, everyone pretty much counted him and his boxing career out at that point.

Only a style change into a more cautious fighter saved his career. This is the reason why he doesn't KO people like he used to but he still has more power than his brother Vitali.

**** can happen to anyone. He was outboxing and hammering Brewster just before he got stopped. It was a one of a kind thing. Bad luck. That's all there is to it. Brewster will never be half the fighter Wlad is.

[TheGreatA]

**** can happen to anyone. He was outboxing and hammering Brewster just before he got stopped. It was a one of a kind thing. Bad luck. That's all there is to it. Brewster will never be half the fighter Wlad is.

I didn't say he was.

The reason Wladimir lost is because he tried to put on a show. He threw everything at Brewster who just wouldn't go. A man the size of Wladimir can't throw that many punches and expect not to tire.

With a more cautious style he was able to outbox Brewster with ease, although it has to be said that the Brewster he fought in the rematch was not the same Brewster he fought in their first fight.

[BrooklynBomber]

I didn't say he was.

The reason Wladimir lost is because he tried to put on a show. He threw everything at Brewster who just wouldn't go. A man the size of Wladimir can't throw that many punches and expect not to tire.

With a more cautious style he was able to outbox Brewster with ease, although it has to be said that the Brewster he fought in the rematch was not the same Brewster he fought in their first fight.

IMO it did not matter, Brewster, before 4th done absolute 0 even trying to touch Wlad, Wlad literally had to fall on the ropes with his hands dropped from exhaustion for Brewster to start landing, 2nd fight put everything in it's place. Guys like Lamon really do not fade over the career if they keep their weight in control(Lamon sported the same weight in both fights against Wlad) since they do not as much count on speed of reflexes and footwork. I dont remember exactly, but I think Brewster actually landed more in the second fight then in the first as well.

[TheGreatA]

IMO it did not matter, Brewster, before 4th done absolute 0 even trying to touch Wlad, Wlad literally had to fall on the ropes with his hands dropped from exhaustion for Brewster to start landing, 2nd fight put everything in it's place. Guys like Lamon really do not fade over the career if they keep their weight in control(Lamon sported the same weight in both fights against Wlad) since they do not as much count on speed of reflexes and footwork. I dont remember exactly, but I think Brewster actually landed more in the second fight then in the first as well.

In my opinion it's fighters like Brewster who fade the earliest.

Brewster had taken numerous beatings throughout his career and was coming off a long layoff due to a surgery on a detached retina.

The Brewster who fought Wladimir the first time took an absolute beating and kept coming forward relentlessly. The second time around he didn't put up much of a fight. Now Wladimir obviously fought a better, more strategic fight in the rematch but Brewster did not seem to have anywhere near the same determination he had when they first fought.

[apefar]

The man got awarded the WBC belt TWICE and suddenly he's like a top 5 ATG!

Who cares about WBC? It doesnt mean jack ****. He was undisputed champion for 6 years (minus loss to Rahman), thats what counts and the level of the opponents he has beaten! Still i dont think he is better than top 10 (Heavyweight that is)