Joe Frazier vs these 5 Heavyweights.............

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  • sonnyboyx2
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    #11
    Originally posted by Merseysideblood
    I wonder who your favourite boxer is? lol
    Muhammad Ali is my fav boxer followed by Ezzard Charles

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      #12
      Originally posted by Obama
      Just cuz Frazier beat Ali's ass dosn't mean he beats everyone's ass. Tunney is the weakest opponent on the list, yet he earns a split decision to you...
      Frazier did not only beat Muhammad ali, they fought 3 great fights and Frazier was in there holding his own for 40rds, Frazier also beat a prime Bonavena (twice) Quarry (twice) stopped Chuvalo which very few could do, he KOd Jimmy Ellis (twice) KOd Mathis, beat Bugner and KOd Eddie Machen which was a feat in its self, Smokin`Joe Frazier was a top 10 ATG fighter and the guys on the `match-up` list just dont qualify as huge threats to Frazier.. Gene Tunney had the style and ability to hang-in there for the 15rds the others did not and Frazier would `bomb them out`...prime Frazier was a relentless and destructive fighting machine`...excuses are always made for the 2 loses Lennox Lewis suffered "fast count, under-trained, lucky punch etc etc" but dont forget that Joe Frazier fought his last 8 fights wearing contact lenses and was blind in one eye..his losses to a prime George Foreman there was legitamate excuses, Frazier was 15lbs over-weight after being on a world tour with his blues band, he was `fat as a pig` for their 1st fight, their 2nd fight was after the "Thriller in Manilla" need i say more.
      Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 08-08-2009, 12:14 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
        Lewis v Frazier -- Frazier KO3
        Holmes vs Frazier --Frazier KO4
        Bowe vs Frazier --- Frazier KO9
        Tunney vs Frazier --Frazier PTS15 - split-dec
        Tyson vs Frazier ---Frazier KO4
        Originally posted by Merseysideblood
        I wonder who your favourite boxer is? lol
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
        Muhammad Ali is my fav boxer followed by Ezzard Charles
        The logic is Ali > Everyone, Frazier beat Ali's ass, Frazier > Everyone but Ali.

        I was way ahead of picking that up Mersey. Ali worshipers generally rate Frazier incredibly high. It's a means to justify Ali's mediocre performances.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Obama
          The logic is Ali > Everyone, Frazier beat Ali's ass, Frazier > Everyone but Ali.

          I was way ahead of picking that up Mersey. Ali worshipers generally rate Frazier incredibly high. It's a means to justify Ali's mediocre performances.
          are you saying Muhammad Ali`s performances against Joe Frazier was "mediocre`?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Obama
            The logic is Ali > Everyone, Frazier beat Ali's ass, Frazier > Everyone but Ali.

            I was way ahead of picking that up Mersey. Ali worshipers generally rate Frazier incredibly high. It's a means to justify Ali's mediocre performances.
            name me a heavyweight fighter who`s performances was greater or on a par with those of Muhammad Ali ?

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            • them_apples
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              #16
              Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
              name me a heavyweight fighter who`s performances was greater or on a par with those of Muhammad Ali ?
              performances or resume? I can name plenty of fighters who performed as well or even better than him in certain fights.

              Geroge Foreman did a hell of a better job than Ali did to Frazier.

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                #17
                Originally posted by them_apples
                performances or resume? I can name plenty of fighters who performed as well or even better than him in certain fights.

                Geroge Foreman did a hell of a better job than Ali did to Frazier.
                thats like saying "Hector Camacho did a better job on Sugar Ray Leonard than Roberto Duran did"

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by them_apples
                  performances or resume? I can name plenty of fighters who performed as well or even better than him in certain fights.

                  Geroge Foreman did a hell of a better job than Ali did to Frazier.
                  name me some fighters who would have stood up too Foreman in Jamaica and Zaire

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                    name me some fighters who would have stood up too Foreman in Jamaica and Zaire
                    Jimmy Young

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      Jimmy Young
                      Jimmy Young was Foremans final fight before his retirement and was 5yrs after Jamaica and 3yrs after Zaire...also Frazier would `murder` Jimmy Young

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