Roberto Duran vs SRR at Welterweight

[Jim Jeffries]

Duran fought a great fight against Leonard but Robinson was the greatest welter bar none. Now duran against any lightweight is a conversation.

Greatest welter doesn't necessarily mean he annihilates every other one in history. Duran was highly competitive with one of the top 3 greatest MWs in history. Ray would definitely be the fav, but I see Duran making it a fight.

[Obama]

Greatest welter doesn't necessarily mean he annihilates every other one in history. Duran was highly competitive with one of the top 3 greatest MWs in history. Ray would definitely be the fav, but I see Duran making it a fight.

Hagler gave him too much respect in that fight. Hagler was completely unimpressed by Duran at the finish. You kinda had to piss Hagler off to make him fight... And by piss him off I mean do damage to him.

[them_apples]

Roberto Duran was alot harder to hit than most people think.SRL said so himself.

That being the case,and allowing Duran to put pressure on SRR I believe it would be a good fight.I believe Duran would be able to go to the body,and thus enable him to go to the head as well.Of course SRR would also be going to both the head and body.But Duran is as tough as they come.I see Duran going the distance,and putting up a better fight than most people think.

I see SRR winning a UD 8-6-1,9-6,and 9-6.

Any thoughts?

Every body that fought him said he was hard to hit, he moved his head a lot and used fients constantly.

This is a very hard fight to pick. we saw what a similar size Lamotta was capable of doing to SRR (Lamotta wasn't a very big guy, same reach as Duran only 5'8) Duran was very skilled and pretty quick at 147. duran would have given Robinson fits, IMO if he beat Leonard there is a good chance he'd beat Robinson to.

Very hard to choose but I'm going with Duran (I'm partly biased).

[JAB5239]

The Roberto Duran of the 1st fight with SRL at welterweight vs SRR at welterweight who was 126-1?

I believe that was Roberto Duran's greatest fight of his career.

The Duuuuuran of that fight vs SRR at welterweight?

I agree the first Leonard fight was the best of Durans career. On that particular night I would give him a chance to beat any welter in history, including Robinson.

[GJC]

Greatest welter doesn't necessarily mean he annihilates every other one in history. Duran was highly competitive with one of the top 3 greatest MWs in history. Ray would definitely be the fav, but I see Duran making it a fight.

Don't think Robinson would whup Duran certainly not the Duran of the Montreal fight but can't see him beating Robinson. Leonard fought Duran's fight and nearly won so assuming even that Robinson falls into Duran's trap still think he will have too much. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Duran fan and him versus any lightweight I think he would win but not against the absolute elite welters.

[klipsch speaker]

Hagler gave him too much respect in that fight. Hagler was completely unimpressed by Duran at the finish. You kinda had to piss Hagler off to make him fight... And by piss him off I mean do damage to him.

I really would want to question your objectivity and neutrality.

You are obviously a Robinson nuthugger.

[Obama]

I really would want to question your objectivity and neutrality.

You are obviously a Robinson nuthugger.

Because of the avatar? I'm not the first guy who said Hagler gave Duran too much respect. Hell, it was in the pre-fight hype for the Hearns vs Hagler war. Has nothing to do with my liking Robinson.

[Dynamite Kid]

Hagler gave him too much respect in that fight. Hagler was completely unimpressed by Duran at the finish. You kinda had to piss Hagler off to make him fight... And by piss him off I mean do damage to him.

I think there is an element of truth to what you are saying because Hagler did tend to throw down when he got hit, most notably when he was being put under a lot of pressure is when he got drawn him into a fight.

Vito did it in the latter rounds of the first fight and Roldan did it to imo.

But by the same token, had Hagler ever faced a fighter as good as Duran albeit smaller before that ?

[Obama]

I think there is an element of truth to what you are saying because Hagler did tend to throw down when he got hit, most notably when he was being put under a lot of pressure is when he got drawn him into a fight.

Vito did it in the latter rounds of the first fight and Roldan did it to imo.

But by the same token, had Hagler ever faced a fighter as good as Duran albeit smaller before that ?

Hmm, Duran definitely was the best guy he faced p4p, not just before either but in his entire career. Thing is, Duran was not a great Middleweight. He was a pretty damn good Middleweight, but not a great one. I had him losing to Barkley, and he lost to Robbie Sims. I'd go as far as to say Duran was no longer a great fighter past Welterweight. So, given that, there's a handful of guys who were equally as hard challenges for Hagler to conquer earlier in his career. The Philadelphia boys he had to fight in the beginning of his career gave him a lot of the experience he lacked from the amateurs. As a Champion, his most impressive win to me pre Hearns was Hamsho.

[Dynamite Kid]

Hmm, Duran definitely was the best guy he faced p4p, not just before either but in his entire career. Thing is, Duran was not a great Middleweight. He was a pretty damn good Middleweight, but not a great one. I had him losing to Barkley, and he lost to Robbie Sims. I'd go as far as to say Duran was no longer a great fighter past Welterweight. So, given that, there's a handful of guys who were equally as hard challenges for Hagler to conquer earlier in his career. The Philadelphia boys he had to fight in the beginning of his career gave him a lot of the experience he lacked from the amateurs. As a Champion, his most impressive win to me pre Hearns was Hamsho.

I agree, i dont even think Duran was a great 154 pounder, he got outfoxed by Laing and Benitez and had a tough tough fight with Nino Gonzalez that was very close , he did'nt look comfortable at the weight against Nino Gonzalez or Luigi Minchillo, he had his problems with Luigi Minchillo early to, didn't Davey Moore have a limited amount of fights when Duran beat him ? Robbie Sims also beat Duran at 160 in a close fight but i do think Sims won the fight, Duran faded down the stretch.


I dont think Watts beat Hagler, he got the decision but he was hella tired at the end of the fight and Hagler was all over him.

A side not, my boy McCallum beat the **** outta Luigi Minchillo and his corner stopped the fight because he was gettin such a shellacking,