Who's prime is more overrated ?

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  • NakiFan
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    #11
    How many top 10 M/W's do you see beating Jones prime for prime? on or two? maybe?

    How many top 10-15 heavyweights beat Tyson prime for prime? probably all of them

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    • princemanspoper
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      #12
      Tyson sucks,Roy Jones sucks wah wah wah.What an original thread posted in the most original thread inhabited by posters of the most original and diversive opinions *cough cough*

      All ****** threads like this does is attract the simple minded morons from NSB that pedopoet is always moaning about


      Originally posted by Infern0
      How many top 10-15 heavyweights beat Tyson prime for prime? probably all of them
      You just have a twitch in your arse because tyson gets rated over lewis in prime for prime matchups

      get over it,loser
      Last edited by princemanspoper; 07-30-2009, 08:50 PM.

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      • Poet682006
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        #13
        Originally posted by Infern0
        How many top 10 M/W's do you see beating Jones prime for prime? on or two? maybe?
        Well, I tend to see Jones at Light-Heavy since he was a true Middleweight only VERY early in his career. I would say Jones would be competetive with the bottom half of the Light-Heavy ATGs. Ezzard Charles, Gene Tunney, Archie Moore, and Bob Foster would probably be too tall an order. I would favor Michael Spinks over Roy but I think that's a very competetive fight that Jones could possibly even win: Call it Spinks 6 out of 10 fights.

        Originally posted by Infern0
        How many top 10-15 heavyweights beat Tyson prime for prime? probably all of them
        Most of them. I tend to think that against Marciano and Frazier it's even-odds.....maybe even Dempsey though I would personally favor Jack.

        Poet

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        • them_apples
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          #14
          Tyson, many think he was unbeatable, but like most fighters he was beatable imo.

          Jones was pretty much unbeatable in his prime however...I'd pick very few against him.

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          • Mersey
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            #15
            Both had very good primes, I think Tyson's was overrated though due to the level of competition in his prime era.

            He looked like an unstoppable machine but he was only fights C+ fighters.

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            • ironalex
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              #16
              Originally posted by Infern0
              How many top 10 M/W's do you see beating Jones prime for prime? on or two? maybe?

              How many top 10-15 heavyweights beat Tyson prime for prime? probably all of them
              heavyweight is a total different story, a lot of heavyweights could get beat, heavyweights are known for having one hitta quittas. Tyson on his day could of beaten all of them...Jack Dempsey,Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, etc etc....dont you remember the Mccall and Rahman beat down of the man in your pic...Lewis is a good fighter but is very ovverated....and anyone with any boxing sense knows that a prime tyson knocks a prime Lewis out.

              Hagler,Leonard,Robinson,Prime Hopkins,Blown up Hearns,Blown up Duran, Monzon...lots of people have a chance against the on a world scale chinny jones.....

              All in all, i think the correct answer is Neither, thats not sitting on the fence or w.e, but if you had to pick one...it would probably be Tyson's as prev. mentioned his prime was short, and roy's was longer.... having said that, when roy was turning pro, tyson was undisputed heavyweight champion.if Tyson had Rooney,Cus,Jacobs around him instead of Don King stepping in, he would of had a lot better legacy (and thats saying something because his legacy is great as it is)

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              • ironalex
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                #17
                Also...Jones was more of a Light heavy then a middleweight, and if you are going into that weight division, Ezzarld Charles, Archie Moore, Bob Foster, Dwight Muhammad Quawi all would get the better of jones.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  Tyson's because he was completely one dimensional and fought worse competition. And when that prime ended he was not able to give a gut it out last hurrah win. Roy did that in the first Tarver fight, while also during his prime absolutely destroying three different divisions. People will say he didn't fight great competition but I think that is untrue, many of the light heavyweights he dominated were very good fighters that would have been remembered differently if not for Roy. He easily beat both Bernard Hopkins and James Toney as well, and of course finished off his prime by winning a heavyweight belt and gutting out that win over Tarver.

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                  • Dynamite Kid
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ironalex
                    heavyweight is a total different story, a lot of heavyweights could get beat, heavyweights are known for having one hitta quittas. Tyson on his day could of beaten all of them...Jack Dempsey,Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, etc etc....dont you remember the Mccall and Rahman beat down of the man in your pic...Lewis is a good fighter but is very ovverated....and anyone with any boxing sense knows that a prime tyson knocks a prime Lewis out.

                    Hagler,Leonard,Robinson,Prime Hopkins,Blown up Hearns,Blown up Duran, Monzon...lots of people have a chance against the on a world scale chinny jones.....

                    All in all, i think the correct answer is Neither, thats not sitting on the fence or w.e, but if you had to pick one...it would probably be Tyson's as prev. mentioned his prime was short, and roy's was longer.... having said that, when roy was turning pro, tyson was undisputed heavyweight champion.if Tyson had Rooney,Cus,Jacobs around him instead of Don King stepping in, he would of had a lot better legacy (and thats saying something because his legacy is great as it is)

                    No, only Tyson die hards see it like that.

                    .if Tyson had Rooney,Cus,Jacobs around him instead of Don King stepping in, he would of had a lot better legacy

                    Change the record.......zzzz.
                    Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 07-31-2009, 07:30 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by poet682006
                      Tyson's.....because his rabid fans portray him as the GOAT because he got quickie KOs over Trever Berbick calibre fighters.....then when it occurs to them that Berbick was crap and a C class fighter at best they go through contortions to transform Berbick from a crap C class fighter into a credible opponent.

                      Poet
                      Berbick was far from C class. Doesn't speak highly of the way Larry Holmes, who had one of his tougher fights with Berbick, by calling him C class. His resume is decent, and he was Champion in a much better era than we got today.

                      As to answering the question at hand, Jones was more over rated. Tyson had a higher level of quality opposition.

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