Rock Vs Iron ( Marciano V Tyson )

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  • bojangles1987
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    #11
    Man, if Marciano could just last to round 4 or 5....

    I think he would. Marciano would be down 3-5 times in the first 3 or 4 rounds and completely break Tyson once it was over. It would be ugly.

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    • 0Rooster4Life0
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      #12
      Originally posted by Obama
      Problem with Marciano was that he was a small man that did NOT beat big men. Joe Louis is the only rated guy he ever faced that was simultaneously 6+ ft and 200+ lbs. For a guy with 49 fights does that not seem odd to you? Tyson KOed big guys, Dempsey KOed big guys, Frazier KOed big guys...Marciano avoided them.

      Rated Guys Marciano Fought:

      Moore – Height: 5'11" || Weight: 188 lbs || Reach: 75”
      ****ell – Height: 5'11" || Weight: 205 lbs || Reach: 71”
      Charles – Height: 6'0" || Weight: 185 ½ & 192 ½ lbs || Reach: 73”
      LaStarza – Height: 6'0" || Weight: 187 & 184 ¾ lbs || Reach: ??
      Walcott – Height: 6'0" || Weight: 196 ½ & 197 ¾ lbs || Reach: 74”
      Matthews – Height: 5'10 ¾” || Weight: 179 lbs || Reach: ??
      Layne – Height: 6'1 || Weight: 193 lbs || Reach: ??
      Louis – Height: 6'2" || Weight: 213 ¾ lbs || Reach: 76”

      Rated Guys Marciano didn't fight:

      This list shows the highest rank these fighters had in brackets and their current record in parenthesis

      Nino Valdez [1] - 6’3” – 210 – (48-19-2)
      Bob Baker [2] - 6’2” – 215 – (51-16-1)
      Dan Bucceroni [3] - 6’2” – 190 – (46-6)
      Tommy Jackson [3]- 6' 3½” – 195 – (34-9-1)
      John Holman [4] - 6’3” – 205 (27-17-1)
      Earl Walls [5] - 6'2½” – 192 – (34-9-1)
      Heinz Neuhaus [6] – 6’2” – 212 (43-9-7)
      Karel Sys [9] – 5’11” – 210 – (114-17-10)
      Young Jack Johnson [9] – 6’3” – 208 – (24-20-1)
      Coley Wallace [10] – 6’2” – 205 – (20-7)

      7 of these 10 fighters weigh above 200 lbs. 6 of them are at least 6'2”. The remaining 3 fighters are 6'2”, 6'2 ½”, and 6'3 ½”. Given the dimensions of the top contenders Marciano did fight, there seems to be a severe disparity in size compared to the one's he didn't.


      Thats a Very good Post.


      But Rocky did fight Bigger men then him, And they Always had a better reach.

      Jersey Joe Walcott - 198 and 6 foot tall.
      Rex Layne - 200 and over 6ft tall
      Joe Louis -213 and 6'2".
      Lee Savold - 200 and 6ft
      Pat Connolly - 213 and 6'5"
      Johnny Shkor - 225 and 6'5"
      Bill Wilson - 229 and 6'2"

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      • 0Rooster4Life0
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        #13
        Anyway, Better finish this debate later, its 1am here in Aus,

        but thank you for the talk, its good to have an educational debate.


        Thanks Again Mate!

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        • Spartacus Sully
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          #14
          marciano 8th round ko i mean come on hes gonna make it their and hes not gonna let it go all the way

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          • Tyson Jr.
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            #15
            Marciano
            has an abilty of taking hitts
            he is a heavy puncher
            he can last for long rounds
            ...........
            Tyson
            Heavy Puncher
            Fast
            and able to take punches
            ...........
            Marciano
            i think that he kindda slow
            his hands are always down
            ...........
            Tyson
            he gets tired after fighting more than five rounds
            ...........
            It is a tough call
            but it would be a fight worths watching
            dont ask me why
            but my money is on Tyson

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            • them_apples
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              #16
              Originally posted by 0Rooster4Life0
              In a 15 Round fight Who would Win?



              Both have there advantages, Both have Flaws, Both have terrific Power.


              I think this Fight would be told after the first 3 Rounds. Im not saying Mike would Tire after 3, But you got to admit The longer this goes the better it is For Rock.


              i can see this going either way.


              I can see Tyson Stopping Rock While he is Cold.
              But i also see Rocky weathering the storm and Breaking Mike Down.


              Lets Hear Your Opinion



              Mike Tyson knocks him out early.

              Tyson is not a 3 round fighter, he tires near the end and his punch output slows but only because he starts so fast. I'd say he's more of a 6 round fighter.

              If Rocky did win I don't think he could knock him out. Tyson was to tough, big and strong in his prime to go down against a LHW.

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                #17
                Originally posted by them_apples
                Mike Tyson knocks him out early.

                Tyson is not a 3 round fighter, he tires near the end and his punch output slows but only because he starts so fast. I'd say he's more of a 6 round fighter.

                If Rocky did win I don't think he could knock him out. Tyson was to tough, big and strong in his prime to go down against a LHW.
                In his prime Marciano was never a LHW.

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                • them_apples
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by .SOUTHPAW16BF.
                  In his prime Marciano was never a LHW.
                  he was 185 in his prime, most LHW's could cut that and come in on a next day weigh in easily. I think even Hopkins was something like 181-182, and he's not even a natural LHW.

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                  • GJC
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Obama
                    Marciano can't fight like Evander. Nor was mike in his prime when he met Evander... Evander's headbutts were also a big part in making mike uncomfortable. The headbutts would not have been effective if Evander wasn't taller. Marciano however is the shorter man.
                    If you think Holy's headbutts made Tyson uncomfortable Marciano was the master of making making fighters uncomfortable lol. Not sure whether being taller is an advantage re butting to be honest.

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                    • boxingbuff
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                      #20
                      As much as I like Marciano and his courage,heart,ability to take punishment,stamina,and love of boxing....Tyson is just to big,hits to hard,and would KO Rocky in one or two rounds.

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