Are any of you boxing historians MMA Fans?

[Spartacus Sully]

Hey hey hey prides cool fedors the man but prides not out there making a reality show and thats just gay ufc can go blow themselfs

reason to dislike mma #2 every one thats a fan of mma will tell you that any one in mma will beat any one in boxing and its impossiable for it to go any other way

[princemanspoper]

So why'd you say "pardon?"

If UFC is popular in NA so is MMA.

No it's not,The UFC is a brand that sells,No other mma promotion has turned a profit on a national level in north america FACT!

UFC dies,MMGAY dies FACT!

Sorry, how about a good portion. Don't know what MMA is, a lot do. Russians, Japanese, Americans, Chinese, Brazilians, Greeks, lots of Europeans, Koreans, Filipinos, Lots of places in South America, Canada, Great Britain, etc. And any market that has MMA, ALL fighters who want to be great desire to be in the UFC, thats a fact.

You have proven my point dingbat,there is nothing else but the UFC For MMGAY fighters to make a good living and recieve good exposure and very few of those markets do have MMGAY dingbat,and even if they do,it is on a very..very small scale

They had money to blow, and if you looked at their cards you would see they were GREAT, smart one. Given time I think they would have grown ESPECIALLY if UFC folded. Instead thinking purely about the stats of a young promotion why don't you look at other aspects of it.

Oh,so is losing much more money than you take in a success? is it really? you would make a great manager...no really you would

When running a business profit is all that counts and that gay little t shirt company didn't make **** with their events they promoted FACT!

THey canceled their last show due to last minute fighter controversy. Why don't you do some research before you spout off nonsense. Barnett was pinned for roids and they decided they could not find a suitable fighter to take on Fedor. The card was pretty good but they felt the title fight was too large a part..

And you blatantly ignore the part where I mentioned that they had to cancel an event last october.Ticket sales were already mediocre for this card like they had been for the past two events they promoted and losing this fight just gave them the red light to call the event off

Really its dead, so you couldn't find a lot of people who know about it and follow it in Japan? What're you ******ed? Average knowledge about MMA in Japan is common. You'd be surprised apparently how many people know about. MMA is big over there, fact. Its not dead like you claim. Thats not the only reason why Pride died, sorry.

Yet you failed to actually debunk my claims that it was dead,It's dead in the mainstream and that's a FACT!

ratings and attendances don't lie

Now you're gonna come out me with sales, stats, any other **** which furthers my thoughts of you being insecure.

sales and stats to back up my claims something you have failed to do,nothing to do with being insecure dingbat

Grow up,

Go fight in an MMA match and lets see how you fare. You'd still say it was gay even though another guy did nothing **** to you and ****ed your ass up.

I'd love to slap you right across the chops because Irony has yet to do so

[Phenomkidd]

you are going on like MMA fighters are the gods of fighting. At my gym the MMA fighters always get stomped in the ring even by amateurs.

also, some of the best fighters in the UFC are purely standup anyways only they are terrible at it. Look at Silvas boxing debut. Hilarious.

I should also point out, if you are quick on your feet and have sharp reflexes, it's very hard for a wrestler to get hold of you and get a successful takedown, especially if you are in the same weight class and possess similar strength.

No I'm not going like the they are the gods of fighting in fact I said nothing about the fighters that would suggest as much. I was talking about its popularity, j-mma, maybe something about fighters idr, etc.

MMA is a totally different animal than Boxing. I don't understand why boxing fans have such an unreasonable hate towards MMA. I would guess most of it stems they feel MMA is competing with them. Like I keep saying I love both sports and like many other Combat Sports. Theres no reason to hate either, dislike maybe. To tear apart with crude insults due to childish nature, definitely not.

Its not hard to get a hold of someone in MMA, not at all. Once you grab them it depends on your execution, strength, explosiveness, etc against the other guys strength, explosiveness, take down defense.

[Phenomkidd]

No it's not,The UFC is a brand that sells,No other mma promotion has turned a profit on a national level in north america FACT!

UFC dies,MMGAY dies FACT!



You have proven my point dingbat,there is nothing else but the UFC For MMGAY fighters to make a good living and recieve good exposure and very few of those markets do have MMGAY dingbat,and even if they do,it is on a very..very small scale





Oh,so is losing much more money than you take in a success? is it really? you would make a great manager...no really you would

When running a business profit is all that counts and that gay little t shirt company didn't make **** with their events they promoted FACT!




And you blatantly ignore the part where I mentioned that they had to cancel an event last october.Ticket sales were already mediocre for this card like they had been for the past two events they promoted and losing this fight just gave them the red light to call the event off





Yet you failed to actually debunk my claims that it was dead,It's dead in the mainstream and that's a FACT!

ratings and attendances don't lie





sales and stats to back up my claims something you have failed to do,nothing to do with being insecure dingbat






I'd love to slap you right across the chops because Irony has yet to do so

Oh jeez...more dingbat remarks.

Well no it won't die if the UFC dies.

You can get pretty good exposure in Dream, Sengoku, Strikeforce, etc.


They just started, they held a great promotion. Great card, great during event work, etc. They had money to spend and they used it. How does that relate to me as a manager smart one or should I say dingbat. I did not endorse that kind of spending, and if I had an MMA org I obviously wouldn't/couldn't want to do that. But they had money and time (or so they thought) as well as high profile fighters. Ticket sales are not what killed the event, fact. Go look some articles about it. The Barnett controversy started the downward spiral. Mediocre for what a organization that just started up...k. BTW since when is 13,000+ attendance for both events bad?

Its not dead in the mainstream, head over to japan to find out, you can't prove it is w/o doing so.

Sales and stats are not all there is to a story, what a small/closed mind you must have to think so.

I don't think I would want the likes of your ignorant self to be getting that close to me.

[princemanspoper]

BTW since when is 13,000+ attendance for both events bad?.

when only half the audience actually pays for their tickets?

[Phenomkidd]

when only half the audience actually pays for their tickets?

Affliction Banned was something like 12,3xx paid out of 14,xxx that were there. Good amount of paid viewers. Affliction DoR I can't find paid and total.

[Caesar]

in my thought is mma to dangerous, but technically it is more varied then boxing, for myself i dont like it

[JAB5239]

been meaning to ask this for a while, do any of you guys on the history sesction love mma or are a fan of the sport out of interest?

discuss!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was never really a fan till I started doing it. Now I can appreciate how difficult it really is.

[Gettin Jiggy]

I was never really a fan till I started doing it. Now I can appreciate how difficult it really is.

you cound't of put it better, people think it is just a bar room fight. when there is alot of hard traning and techinque you have to learn and do, to be a top level fighter!

did you watch UFC 102 Jab?

[Slimey Limey]

As a Boxing Historian myself I can speak for every real Boxing fan that mmGAY is crap.