10 best Heavies NOT to win the title...

[Obama]

If it were a simple error then fair enough,but it wasn't.You were using logic that completely contradicted the whole point of the thread thus exposing yourself as a first class dunce


by the way when you are wrong it's always considered good manners to admit your idiocy and be humble about it rather than throw out insults like a sore dunce


I shall await your apology

****wad, you were rude by calling me a dunce in the first place. You're not getting an apology clown.

[VINXGC]

"title" meaning world title

George Chuvalo
Ken Norton
Oscar Bonavena
Luis Angel Firpo
Ron Lyle
Archie Moore
Andrew Golota
Sam Langford
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ernie Shavers

if NAB's title counts in then include

Gregorio Peralta
Ingemar Johannson
Karl Mildenberger

[mickey malone]

"title" meaning world title

George Chuvalo
Ken Norton
Oscar Bonavena
Luis Angel Firpo
Ron Lyle
Archie Moore
Andrew Golota
Sam Langford
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ernie Shavers

if NAB's title counts in then include

Gregorio Peralta
Ingemar Johannson
Karl Mildenberger

Good list!....

I'd be tempted to replace Golota with Jimmy Young & maybe Norton with Peter Jackson, mainly because Norton was awarded the WBC strap after it was stripped from Spinks.. Should Norton be deemed as a non titlist, then I'd probably put him at the very top.. Very good list though..

[freudianfloyd]

I didn't see Jerry Quarry on any lists. He was definitely a world class fighter that gave many fighters below Ali, Frazier, and Foreman trouble. In the 80's he would have been champ.

[mickey malone]

I didn't see Jerry Quarry on any lists. He was definitely a world class fighter that gave many fighters below Ali, Frazier, and Foreman trouble. In the 80's he would have been champ.

It's my thread.. He's on there all right.. Check the very first post..

[sonnyboyx2]

1. Sam Langford
2. Harry Wills
3. Joe Jeanette
4. Ike Ikeabuechi
5. David Tua
6. Gerry Quarry
7. Larry Middleton
8. Ernie Shavers
9. Tommy Farr
10.Joe Bugner

This is a spur of the moment list (honest!) & I've bound to have left a few good opinions out, so give me your views..
Have taken into account that Ken Norton was awarded the title after Leon Spinks was stripped of it, so maybe he should be in the list to.. Will leave it up to you....

Jerry Quarry
Ron Lyle
Oscar Bonavena
Zora Folley
Jimmy Young
Louis Angel Firpo
Tom Sharkey
Joe Jeanette
Cleveland Williams
Sam Langford

[mickey malone]

Jerry Quarry
Ron Lyle
Oscar Bonavena
Zora Folley
Jimmy Young
Louis Angel Firpo
Tom Sharkey
Joe Jeanette
Cleveland Williams
Sam Langford

Good list & a few in common.. Since starting the thread, I'd now remove Middleton Bugner & Farr for Jackson,Young & Lyle.. Can't find room for Bonavena, Williams, Sharkey, Folley & Firpo.. Bonvena being the best, but the others, a tadge chinny I feel..

[sonnyboyx2]

Hi Sonnybox, I personally didn't score the Ali fight to Young but many experts did. To be honest even those who scored it for Ali didn't think it was a good showing from him.....Ali was not on form that night, his heaviest ever (230 Lbs). He spent alot of time on the ropes clowning around and his accuracy and timing were not great that night.

As for Young vs Foreman, close fight for me, a very good one too! Foreman was great at points in the fight but was very ill afterwards and collapsed in the dressing room. He would have almost certainly been stopped if it were a fifteen rounder. If you only gave Young 2 rounds this seems very harsh and way out of line with most experts and fans assessments. Even if the fight was declared a draw that would be a great achievement for Young.

i just thought Foreman was the aggressor throughout and Youngs pity-pat punches did not impress me, its a long time since i viewed the fight but i can recall that each time i did watch it i always had Foreman the winner.. years ago i read an article by Arthur Mercante who said when he scored a fight he used a method of breaking a round down into 3 separate minutes, fighter A could win the first 2 minutes of a round behind his jab and fighter B could land a 14 punch salvo in the final minute of the round yet Mercante would score the round for fighter A, myself i have no judging experience what so ever just like 99% of fight fans so i like to score a fight while watching it in the way the great Arthur Mercante does, its very surprising how different your scorecard is to your friends

[freudianfloyd]

It's my thread.. He's on there all right.. Check the very first post..

Oh, sorry I was looking at first names, but I see now, you just have it with a G. Well then, good list.

[1SILVA]

1. Sam Langford
2. Harry Wills
3. Joe Jeanette
4. Ike Ikeabuechi
5. David Tua
6. Gerry Quarry
7. Larry Middleton
8. Ernie Shavers
9. Tommy Farr
10.Joe Bugner

This is a spur of the moment list (honest!) & I've bound to have left a few good opinions out, so give me your views..
Have taken into account that Ken Norton was awarded the title after Leon Spinks was stripped of it, so maybe he should be in the list to.. Will leave it up to you....

Jimmy Young