Originally posted by princemanspoper
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10 best Heavies NOT to win the title...
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"title" meaning world title
George Chuvalo
Ken Norton
Oscar Bonavena
Luis Angel Firpo
Ron Lyle
Archie Moore
Andrew Golota
Sam Langford
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ernie Shavers
if NAB's title counts in then include
Gregorio Peralta
Ingemar Johannson
Karl Mildenberger
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Originally posted by VINXGC View Post"title" meaning world title
George Chuvalo
Ken Norton
Oscar Bonavena
Luis Angel Firpo
Ron Lyle
Archie Moore
Andrew Golota
Sam Langford
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ernie Shavers
if NAB's title counts in then include
Gregorio Peralta
Ingemar Johannson
Karl Mildenberger
I'd be tempted to replace Golota with Jimmy Young & maybe Norton with Peter Jackson, mainly because Norton was awarded the WBC strap after it was stripped from Spinks.. Should Norton be deemed as a non titlist, then I'd probably put him at the very top.. Very good list though..
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I didn't see Jerry Quarry on any lists. He was definitely a world class fighter that gave many fighters below Ali, Frazier, and Foreman trouble. In the 80's he would have been champ.
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Originally posted by freudianfloyd View PostI didn't see Jerry Quarry on any lists. He was definitely a world class fighter that gave many fighters below Ali, Frazier, and Foreman trouble. In the 80's he would have been champ.
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Originally posted by mickey malone View Post1. Sam Langford
2. Harry Wills
3. Joe Jeanette
4. Ike Ikeabuechi
5. David Tua
6. Gerry Quarry
7. Larry Middleton
8. Ernie Shavers
9. Tommy Farr
10.Joe Bugner
This is a spur of the moment list (honest!) & I've bound to have left a few good opinions out, so give me your views..
Have taken into account that Ken Norton was awarded the title after Leon Spinks was stripped of it, so maybe he should be in the list to.. Will leave it up to you....
Ron Lyle
Oscar Bonavena
Zora Folley
Jimmy Young
Louis Angel Firpo
Tom Sharkey
Joe Jeanette
Cleveland Williams
Sam Langford
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View PostJerry Quarry
Ron Lyle
Oscar Bonavena
Zora Folley
Jimmy Young
Louis Angel Firpo
Tom Sharkey
Joe Jeanette
Cleveland Williams
Sam Langford
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Originally posted by Sugarj View PostHi Sonnybox, I personally didn't score the Ali fight to Young but many experts did. To be honest even those who scored it for Ali didn't think it was a good showing from him.....Ali was not on form that night, his heaviest ever (230 Lbs). He spent alot of time on the ropes clowning around and his accuracy and timing were not great that night.
As for Young vs Foreman, close fight for me, a very good one too! Foreman was great at points in the fight but was very ill afterwards and collapsed in the dressing room. He would have almost certainly been stopped if it were a fifteen rounder. If you only gave Young 2 rounds this seems very harsh and way out of line with most experts and fans assessments. Even if the fight was declared a draw that would be a great achievement for Young.
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Originally posted by mickey malone View Post1. Sam Langford
2. Harry Wills
3. Joe Jeanette
4. Ike Ikeabuechi
5. David Tua
6. Gerry Quarry
7. Larry Middleton
8. Ernie Shavers
9. Tommy Farr
10.Joe Bugner
This is a spur of the moment list (honest!) & I've bound to have left a few good opinions out, so give me your views..
Have taken into account that Ken Norton was awarded the title after Leon Spinks was stripped of it, so maybe he should be in the list to.. Will leave it up to you....
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