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  • #61
    Originally posted by cotto16 View Post
    well? do you belive dempsey is overrated? bert sugar ranked him the 9th best fighter of all time. how do you rank him? and do you belive he's overrated?
    I don't think he's tremendously overrated. I think Marciano is overrated. 9th best fighter might be accurate.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by GJC View Post
      Like I said before I always take sparring sessions with a pinch of salt. Ali was not the best at sparring and if you counted his sparring sessions as read you would probably have 20 fighters beating him.
      Greb was a great great fighter but IMO Dempsey at HW would be too much for him.
      A big difference. Ali would let sparring parthers hit him with there best, due to wanting his body to get use to feel hard punchers. In one of the sessions Dempsey was going all out on Greb due to frustration. It was basically a ''Gym Fight''

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      • #63
        Originally posted by cotto16 View Post
        well? do you belive dempsey is overrated? bert sugar ranked him the 9th best fighter of all time. how do you rank him? and do you belive he's overrated?
        In terms of accomplishments,yes.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Squabbles94806 View Post
          I don't think he's tremendously overrated. I think Marciano is overrated. 9th best fighter might be accurate.
          Marciano should clearly rank higher than Dempsey.

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          • #65
            Also keep in mind that Greb did most of that blind in one eye

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            • #66
              Jack is known for his punching and ferocity but his defense is very underrated. Overall I think if anything he is underrated.

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              • #67
                About Marciano, people tend to overrate or underrate him. The knock on him is all his big fights were against older guys but really Moore, Walcott and Charles were among the most skilled ring saavy fighters ever.

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                • #68
                  Definitely over rated. He steered clear of semi-elite / elite technically sound heavyweights altogether (Willie Meehan aside) until he was past his prime. Then of course he was clowned in his last 3 fights, despite winning one quite questionably. And I'd give him credit for fighting Meehan but he only beat him 1 out of 5 times...

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                  • #69
                    nobody's perfect. I've never seen any fighter combine movement and power, pound for pound, the way he did. Show me anyone who did that. He's way at the top of the pound for pound power list, based on his performance against willard fighting at 180, and he was bouncing around the ring and circling the first round of that fight. Bob Fitzsimmons could also move quite well and blast punches, but didn't have the lateral movement. I'd say you can't overrate a fighter who was arguably the greatest mover/puncher ever.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Kinetic Linking View Post
                      nobody's perfect. I've never seen any fighter combine movement and power, pound for pound, the way he did. Show me anyone who did that. He's way at the top of the pound for pound power list, based on his performance against willard fighting at 180, and he was bouncing around the ring and circling the first round of that fight. Bob Fitzsimmons could also move quite well and blast punches, but didn't have the lateral movement. I'd say you can't overrate a fighter who was arguably the greatest mover/puncher ever.
                      what about his resume and title reign. both werent brillant!

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