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Do you think Jack Dempsey is overrated?
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Originally posted by GJC View PostLike I said before I always take sparring sessions with a pinch of salt. Ali was not the best at sparring and if you counted his sparring sessions as read you would probably have 20 fighters beating him.
Greb was a great great fighter but IMO Dempsey at HW would be too much for him.
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Jack is known for his punching and ferocity but his defense is very underrated. Overall I think if anything he is underrated.
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About Marciano, people tend to overrate or underrate him. The knock on him is all his big fights were against older guys but really Moore, Walcott and Charles were among the most skilled ring saavy fighters ever.
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Definitely over rated. He steered clear of semi-elite / elite technically sound heavyweights altogether (Willie Meehan aside) until he was past his prime. Then of course he was clowned in his last 3 fights, despite winning one quite questionably. And I'd give him credit for fighting Meehan but he only beat him 1 out of 5 times...
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nobody's perfect. I've never seen any fighter combine movement and power, pound for pound, the way he did. Show me anyone who did that. He's way at the top of the pound for pound power list, based on his performance against willard fighting at 180, and he was bouncing around the ring and circling the first round of that fight. Bob Fitzsimmons could also move quite well and blast punches, but didn't have the lateral movement. I'd say you can't overrate a fighter who was arguably the greatest mover/puncher ever.
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Originally posted by Kinetic Linking View Postnobody's perfect. I've never seen any fighter combine movement and power, pound for pound, the way he did. Show me anyone who did that. He's way at the top of the pound for pound power list, based on his performance against willard fighting at 180, and he was bouncing around the ring and circling the first round of that fight. Bob Fitzsimmons could also move quite well and blast punches, but didn't have the lateral movement. I'd say you can't overrate a fighter who was arguably the greatest mover/puncher ever.
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