Hagler Vs. Hopkins: who wins? explain.

[Smokin'J]

SRL knew Hagler slipped thats why he fought him at that time.

[Thread Stealer]

In my opinion Hagler would be victorious. If it was a twelve rounder, he would beat the executioner by UD, but if it was 15 rounds it would be by way of knockout. I do agree that B-Hop, due to his height and reach advantages, would win the first few rounds. He will show his craftiness by outboxing hagler. However by round 5, Hagler will begin to turn it around. He is far physically superior to hopkins and will impose his will. He will go hard to the body early and often. Hagler was able to take the best of the Hitman's bombs, and go on to win the fight. Since hopkins isn't nearly as powerful as Hearns, Hagler will be confident knowing that he can't be hurt, and will fight furiously. In the end, Marvelous Marvin will put too much pressure and will pick Bernard apart. Another important key is hagler's volume punching that will destroy his opponent.

How is Hagler far physically superior to Hopkins?

He hits harder, but not by some gigantic amount. He was heavy-handed, but not a freak-ish, Julian Jackson-esque puncher.

He's very physically strong, but so is Hopkins, who also fought under different weigh-in rules at 160 so you could argue that he's naturally bigger (his first bout was at LHW).

Speed? Hopkins has the quicker hands. Chin? Hagler has the edge, but Hopkins has a good one too.

[Equinox]

hopkins would murder hagler, not even hating on hagler cause i like him.

[them_apples]

How is Hagler far physically superior to Hopkins?

He hits harder, but not by some gigantic amount. He was heavy-handed, but not a freak-ish, Julian Jackson-esque puncher.

He's very physically strong, but so is Hopkins, who also fought under different weigh-in rules at 160 so you could argue that he's naturally bigger (his first bout was at LHW).

Speed? Hopkins has the quicker hands. Chin? Hagler has the edge, but Hopkins has a good one too.

wasn't Hagler fighter under the same weigh in options by then? no way the guy fought at around 158, looks to big for that.

[Thread Stealer]

wasn't Hagler fighter under the same weigh in options by then? no way the guy fought at around 158, looks to big for that.

The aborted Spinks-Muhammad rematch in 1983 was kind of the breaking point I guess for the change. I'm not sure if all commissions and organizations were abiding by the new rules though. Most of Hagler's career was same-day weigh-in, if not all.

Whatever the case, I don't think any guy has a really enormous advantage in one area. They're both too well rounded.

[TheGreatA]

wasn't Hagler fighter under the same weigh in options by then? no way the guy fought at around 158, looks to big for that.

Hagler may have looked big but he was quite short for a middleweight (5'9) and never weighed more than 160 lbs.

I thought Hearns looked much bigger than him when they fought each other despite Hearns being the one coming up in weight and Leonard looked about the same size. Even Duran was staring him eye to eye.





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The big problem for Hagler in this match-up might actually be Hopkins' size although Hopkins wasn't known for putting on much weight after the weigh-ins during his middleweight run and Hagler did chop down men even taller than Hopkins.

[ИATAS]

tough fight to call. I've gone back and forth on this. I know one thing, neither man is getting KO'd, just not possible.

Hopkins is one of the rare fighters today who would do even better with 15 round fights, so that wouldn't be a deciding factor in picking the winner. He was a machine, just like hagler, and he tended to get better as the fight went on (even against Jermaine Taylor when he was 39/40 years old he was close to finishing him off late in the first fight, if it were a 15 round fight no way taylor survives).

I think hopkins beats the hagler that lost to sugar ray without a doubt. Prime for prime it's tough to say, I can see it going a number of different ways in my head, it's a pick 'em fight really. Halger was damn near unstoppable in his prime, but he never faced a defensive wizard like hopkins who is so versatile.

[Chunk..]

Hagler was the greatest 160 lb fighter ever. Withstood Hearn's murderous right cross and fought a close fight against Ray Leonard's supreme boxing ability.

Hagler was the most complete package we've ever seen in a fighter. Great righty or lefty, slugging or boxing. Great endurance and a tremendous chin. I'm a huge Ray Leonard fan, but you can give this to Marvin Hagler. No one ever clearly, cleanly, beat him. And he fought some real tough hombres. He'd have broken through B Hop's defense and would wear him down like he did everyone. Ray Leonard beat Hagler with a miracle rally in the last 2 rounds.

[Roger Mellie]

Hagler UD,but not a wide one. Would have been an absolute ripper prime for prime.

[GJC]

Even Duran was staring him eye to eye.

Actually if you look at when Duran Hagler touch gloves Duran looks taller if anything, even though Hagler is a couple of inches taller.
I'm always more swayed more by reach than height, and though Hopkins has quite a height advantage their reach is the same.