My Top 50 All-Time Greats!!!

[asero831]

he wasnt P4P king because look who was around, SRL, and marvin hagler.
now tell me, has pac ever faced a fighter as good as those 2?

no, because there currently is none

my bad, he is p4p king in '81...but nobody ranks him in their top 35. His chin fails him in his biggest fights

[portuge puncher]

my bad, he is p4p king in '81...but nobody ranks him in their top 35. His chin fails him in his biggest fights

i was just useing him as an example, but pac isnt number 23, just no way, many fighters have done more, and fought better comp.

[talip bin osman]

he wasnt P4P king because look who was around, SRL, and marvin hagler.
now tell me, has pac ever faced a fighter as good as those 2?

no, because there currently is none

ok... hearns officially lost to those 2 right?

what were his biggest wins?

roberto duran was a great win, but... duran was greatly outsized in that fight... manos de piedra was fighting outside his prime too...

juan roldan & pipino cuevas... was roldan or cuevas in anyway greater compared to barrera or morales? even JMM?

hearns' biggest wins outside those i mentioned were against benitez, virgil hill & michael olajide...

nothing much (except duran) compared to MP's wins...

[asero831]

i was just useing him as an example, but pac isnt number 23, just no way, many fighters have done more, and fought better comp.

he is in the same bracket as jones, chavez, arguello and holyfield

hearns is a bracket or two below

[portuge puncher]

he is in the same bracket as jones, chavez, arguello and holyfield

hearns is a bracket or two below

once again, hearns was only ONE of my 7 examples.
but there are jus to many fighters that have done more then him.
i think chavez did, not to sure about arguello, and many others.

[portuge puncher]

ok... hearns officially lost to those 2 right?

what were his biggest wins?

roberto duran was a great win, but... duran was greatly outsized in that fight... manos de piedra was fighting outside his prime too...

juan roldan & pipino cuevas... was roldan or cuevas in anyway greater compared to barrera or morales? even JMM?

hearns' biggest wins outside those i mentioned were against benitez, virgil hill & michael olajide...

nothing much (except duran) compared to MP's wins...

i was just using hearns as one of my 7 examples, but this is the question:
do you really think pac is number 23 on the ATG's list.

[talip bin osman]

im not really great with lists brudda... im not really that qualified to make a credible list with all these great boxers specially those who belong in the old-skool...

im just replying in the context that u used hearns & the fact that khaosai galaxy was ahead of him in THE RING's list...

[portuge puncher]

im not really great with lists brudda... im not really that qualified to make a credible list with all these great boxers specially those who belong in the old-skool...

im just replying in the context that u used hearns & the fact that khaosai galaxy was ahead of him in THE RING's list...

ok, but can you name more then 23 fighters that are greater then pac.

[glidesmack]

great list.

[JAB5239]

Accomplishment, Overall Ability and Timeliness



1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Sam Langford
5. Harry Greb
6. Joe Louis
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Willie Pep
9. Roberto Duran
10. Archie Moore

11. Benny Leonard
12. Ray Leonard
13. Pernell Whitaker
14. Bob Fitzsimmons
15. Joe Gans
16. Carlos Monzon
17. Barney Ross
18. Jack Johnson
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Jimmy Wilde

21. Mickey Walker
22. Sandy Saddler
23. Manny Pacquiao
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Alexis Arguello
26. Rocky Marciano
27. Gene Tunney
28. Roy Jones Jr
29. Lennox Lewis
30. Evander Holyfield

31. Bernard Hopkins
32. Barbados Joe Walcott
33. Charley Burley
34. Eder Jofre
35. Tony Canzoneri
36. Emile Griffith
37. Jack Dempsey
38. Kid Gavilan
39. Salvador Sanchez
40. Ike Williams


41. Larry Holmes
42. Floyd Mayweather Jr
43. Thomas Hearns
44. Jimmy McLarnin
45. Stanley Ketchel
46. Tommy Loughran
47. Michael Spinks
48. Ruben Olivares
49. Jose Napoles
50. Fighting Harada

I don't agree with everything, but this is a damn good listy. Very respectable.