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**portuge puncher** · 05-24-2009, 08:05 PM

you have pacquiao at 23, ahead of Ruben Olivares, Thomas Hearns, Jack Dempsey, Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones Jr, and Julio Cesar Chavez.

i know people love to criticize people's lists, but c'mon man.

**asero831** · 05-24-2009, 08:22 PM

do you know how hard is it for a flyweight/bantamweight champ to do well past 126...pac didnt only do well, he had success past 126

**portuge puncher** · 05-24-2009, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by asero831

do you know how hard is it for a flyweight/bantamweight champ to do well past 126...pac didnt only do well, he had success past 126

buddy, let me let you in on something, pac-man isnt a natural flywieght, he wieght that much when he was in his teens.

**asero831** · 05-24-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by portuge puncher

buddy, let me let you in on something, pac-man isnt a natural flywieght, he wieght that much when he was in his teens.

yes, he is not a natural flyweight...but he is so great that he manages to win the flyweight title...duran was never a 126 champ nor robinson a 135 champ in their teenage years

**portuge puncher** · 05-24-2009, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by asero831

yes, he is not a natural flyweight...but he is so great that he manages to win the flyweight title...duran was never a 126 champ nor robinson a 135 champ in their teenage years

and

who did he fight that was so good at that wieght,
yes he won a title, but he naturally got bigger.

how about hearns, he won titles from 147-195, and pacs way ahead of him.

it doesnt matter so much on wieght as it does on who they fought.
and the flywieght division is USALLYA the most empty, talent wise.

**talip bin osman** · 05-24-2009, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by portuge puncher

you have pacquiao at 23, ahead of Ruben Olivares, Thomas Hearns, Jack Dempsey, Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones Jr, and Julio Cesar Chavez.

i know people love to criticize people's lists, but c'mon man.

heck... THE RING got khaosai galaxy ahead of hearns also man... why not MP?

doing sum credible list is not a casual thing to do man... its not sumthing like u take bert sugar's or ESPN's as a template then insert/cancel each nominees @ will without careful thought...

**asero831** · 05-24-2009, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by portuge puncher

and

who did he fight that was so good at that wieght,
yes he won a title, but he naturally got bigger.

how about hearns, he won titles from 147-195, and pacs way ahead of him.

it doesnt matter so much on wieght as it does on who they fought.
and the flywieght division is USALLYA the most empty, talent wise.

but was hearns ever been a p4p king? he is only a 5 division champ from 147-175

**asero831** · 05-24-2009, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by portuge puncher

and

who did he fight that was so good at that wieght,
yes he won a title, but he naturally got bigger.

how about hearns, he won titles from 147-195, and pacs way ahead of him.

it doesnt matter so much on wieght as it does on who they fought.
and the flywieght division is USALLYA the most empty, talent wise.

he beat sasakul who beat a p4p top 10 yuri of russia

**portuge puncher** · 05-24-2009, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by asero831

but was hearns ever been a p4p king? he is only a 5 division champ from 147-175

he wasnt P4P king because look who was around, SRL, and marvin hagler.
now tell me, has pac ever faced a fighter as good as those 2?

no, because there currently is none

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