(Poll) SRR the greatest of all time? According to Ali - Yes!

[Slimey Limey]

His Era was weak?
Wins over
Sammy Angottx3
Fritzie Zivicx2
Jake LaMottax5
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilanx2
Rocky Graziano
Randy Turpin
Bobo Olsonx2
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

There's 10 Hall Of Famers Robinson defeated, as well as beating good fighters and contenders in Denny Moyer, Ralph Zannelli, Maxie Berger, Marty Servo, Maxie Shapiro, Pete Lello, Tommy Bell, Joe Curcio, Georgie Abrams and more.

Robinson's resume of wins could be the best ever. And to say his era was a weak one is bogus. He was involved in one of the stronges era's ever, as I've just proved, he virtually avoided no one.

Robinson would of excelled in any era, Dempsey is no wear near as good as a fighter as Ray, his resume dosen't match up to Robinsons, nor does his legacy. Demspey could of fought many more fighters in his era, but chose not to, mainly Willis and Greb.

In his own right Dempsey is a outstanding fighter, but he isn't on the level of Ray Robinson.

That doesn't compare to Muhammad Ali's record.

George Foreman
Joe Frazier 2x
Sonny Liston 2x
Ken Norton 2x
Henry Cooper 2x
Floyd Patterson 2x
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Earnie Shavers
George Chuvalo
Cleveland Williams
Ernie Terrel
Zora Folley
Jerry Quarry
Oscar Bonavena
Jimmy Ellis
Mac Foster
Bob Foster
Joe Bugner
Chuck Wepner
Leon Spinks

Most impressive and consistent record ever

first 3 time HW champ ever

one of the youngest HW champs ever

came back from a 3 year lay off in his prime to accomplish all of this

would beat any boxer in history atleast once


SRR GOAT my ass. Plus Ali would murder him in an actual boxing match so who's the greatest?

[GJC]

That doesn't compare to Muhammad Ali's record.

George Foreman
Joe Frazier 2x
Sonny Liston 2x
Ken Norton 2x
Henry Cooper 2x
Floyd Patterson 2x
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Earnie Shavers
George Chuvalo
Cleveland Williams
Ernie Terrel
Zora Folley
Jerry Quarry
Oscar Bonavena
Jimmy Ellis
Mac Foster
Bob Foster
Joe Bugner
Chuck Wepner
Leon Spinks

Most impressive and consistent record ever

first 3 time HW champ ever

one of the youngest HW champs ever

came back from a 3 year lay off in his prime to accomplish all of this

would beat any boxer in history atleast once


SRR GOAT my ass. Plus Ali would murder him in an actual boxing match so who's the greatest?

Fair few names on your list that don't bear comparison with the previous SRR list IMO

[Slimey Limey]

Fair few names on your list that don't bear comparison with the previous SRR list IMO

PFFT, yeah right. What wins can even compare to Ali's wins over George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston, Ken Norton, Ron Lyle?

SRR gets the same idiotic biased support like Joe Louis.

Meanwhile Ali has idiotic hateful Docu's made about him and people assume the old "Ali was only the greatest because he said so himself" completely disregarding the mans accomplishments which no Boxer in history can stand up to.

[Slimey Limey]

Oh and SRR has like 4 times the amount of fights Ali had as well as 4 times the amount of LOSSES Ali had.

[Southpaw16BF]

That doesn't compare to Muhammad Ali's record.

George Foreman
Joe Frazier 2x
Sonny Liston 2x
Ken Norton 2x
Henry Cooper 2x
Floyd Patterson 2x
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Earnie Shavers
George Chuvalo
Cleveland Williams
Ernie Terrel
Zora Folley
Jerry Quarry
Oscar Bonavena
Jimmy Ellis
Mac Foster
Bob Foster
Joe Bugner
Chuck Wepner
Leon Spinks

Most impressive and consistent record ever

first 3 time HW champ ever

one of the youngest HW champs ever

came back from a 3 year lay off in his prime to accomplish all of this

would beat any boxer in history atleast once


SRR GOAT my ass. Plus Ali would murder him in an actual boxing match so who's the greatest?

Did you read my post or can you read, as I used the word ''Could'' I never said it was fact Robinson had the best resume of wins. But there is no douting he has a case, and unlike you I only named Hall Of Famers on Robinson's list of his best wins, and only put the contenders, decent/good fighters he beat below them.

Take off Cooper, Lyle, Young, Chuvalo, Williams, Bugner, Wepner, Spinks, Bonavena, Ellis, Folley, and Quarry who are all not Hall Of Famers at this point. What you've try to do is, put lots of names on the list to make it look bigger and more impressive.

If were just comparing wins over all between Robinson and Ali, there isn't alot in it and it is a very debatable subject. And then you give me a list of what Ali has done, which I don't why, but I can do that with Robinson just as easy.

.At one point in his career, out of a 131 fights only 1 loss to Hall Of Famer Jake Lamotta, who had a 16 pound weight advantage on Ray, and a defeat in which he avenged 5 times. But yet you say Ali had the Most impressive and consistent record ever? You need to do your research....

.Only ever 5 times Middlweight Champion.

.Considered best Welterweight ever and by most boxing people best ever Middleweight.

.In many people's view the perfect fighter, could do it all. As the old saying goes ''If you could sit down and draw up plans to make a perfect fighter, the one you would make would probaly be damned close to Robinson''

.Said By Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali as the greatest Pound for Pound fighter ever lived.

Defeated 10 Hall of Famers and most more than once
Sammy Angottx3
Fritzie Zivicx2
Jake LaMottax5
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilanx2
Rocky Graziano
Randy Turpin
Bobo Olsonx2
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

You will probaly come back with more bogus answers, as you even think Marcaino slipped against Moore and Walcott, which is complete bogus.

And one more thing you do realize Muhammad Ali said Robinson was the best ever Pound 4 Pound fighter. Ali admitted this himself.

And it just makes you look so ****** when you say Ali would murder the natrual 147 to 160 Robinson. Like that is ment to change people's views in this debate, you make me laugh...........

[them_apples]

That doesn't compare to Muhammad Ali's record.

George Foreman
Joe Frazier 2x
Sonny Liston 2x
Ken Norton 2x
Henry Cooper 2x
Floyd Patterson 2x
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Earnie Shavers
George Chuvalo
Cleveland Williams
Ernie Terrel
Zora Folley
Jerry Quarry
Oscar Bonavena
Jimmy Ellis
Mac Foster
Bob Foster
Joe Bugner
Chuck Wepner
Leon Spinks

Most impressive and consistent record ever

first 3 time HW champ ever

one of the youngest HW champs ever

came back from a 3 year lay off in his prime to accomplish all of this

would beat any boxer in history atleast once


SRR GOAT my ass. Plus Ali would murder him in an actual boxing match so who's the greatest?

amazing record, but consistent? I don't think so. also, not all of those names are great, some of them were pretty bad and gave Ali trouble. In fact, the best guys on that list, bar George Foreman beat him, or got controversial decisions against Ali.

Still, non the less, the best HW resume out there.

[them_apples]

Did you read my post or can you read, as I used the word ''Could'' I never said it was fact Robinson had the best resume of wins. But there is no douting he has a case, and unlike you I only named Hall Of Famers on Robinson's list of his best wins, and only put the contenders, decent/good fighters he beat below them.

Take off Cooper, Lyle, Young, Chuvalo, Williams, Bugner, Wepner, Spinks, Bonavena, Ellis, Folley, and Quarry who are all not Hall Of Famers at this point. What you've try to do is, put lots of names on the list to make it look bigger and more impressive.

If were just comparing wins over all between Robinson and Ali, there isn't alot in it and it is a very debatable subject. And then you give me a list of what Ali has done, which I don't why, but I can do that with Robinson just as easy.

.At one point in his career, out of a 131 fights only 1 loss to Hall Of Famer Jake Lamotta, who had a 16 pound weight advantage on Ray, and a defeat in which he avenged 5 times. But yet you say Ali had the Most impressive and consistent record ever? You need to do your research....

.Only ever 5 times Middlweight Champion.

.Considered best Welterweight ever and by most boxing people best ever Middleweight.

.In many people's view the perfect fighter, could do it all. As the old saying goes ''If you could sit down and draw up plans to make a perfect fighter, the one you would make would probaly be damned close to Robinson''

.Said By Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali as the greatest Pound for Pound fighter ever lived.

Defeated 10 Hall of Famers and most more than once
Sammy Angottx3
Fritzie Zivicx2
Jake LaMottax5
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilanx2
Rocky Graziano
Randy Turpin
Bobo Olsonx2
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

You will probaly come back with more bogus answers, as you even think Marcaino slipped against Moore and Walcott, which is complete bogus.

And one more thing you do realize Muhammad Ali said Robinson was the best ever Pound 4 Pound fighter. Ali admitted this himself.

And it just makes you look so ****** when you say Ali would murder the natrual 147 to 160 Robinson. Like that is ment to change people's views in this debate, you make me laugh...........

Doesn't really matter what other fighters say to each other, it means nothing.
Liston said stuff about rocky being unbeatable, but would you pick Rocky over Liston?

Robinson has a strong case for being one of the best (or best) WW in history, but at middleweight i don't think so. Hagler would stop him, Hopkins would UD or in his prime possibly a stoppage, Monzon? Debatable. I think Robinson is getting too highly rated here at middleweight. At WW, he's def within the top 3.

[Slimey Limey]

Did you read my post or can you read, as I used the word ''Could'' I never said it was fact Robinson had the best resume of wins. But there is no douting he has a case, and unlike you I only named Hall Of Famers on Robinson's list of his best wins, and only put the contenders, decent/good fighters he beat below them.

Take off Cooper, Lyle, Young, Chuvalo, Williams, Bugner, Wepner, Spinks, Bonavena, Ellis, Folley, and Quarry who are all not Hall Of Famers at this point. What you've try to do is, put lots of names on the list to make it look bigger and more impressive.

If were just comparing wins over all between Robinson and Ali, there isn't alot in it and it is a very debatable subject. And then you give me a list of what Ali has done, which I don't why, but I can do that with Robinson just as easy.

.At one point in his career, out of a 131 fights only 1 loss to Hall Of Famer Jake Lamotta, who had a 16 pound weight advantage on Ray, and a defeat in which he avenged 5 times. But yet you say Ali had the Most impressive and consistent record ever? You need to do your research....

.Only ever 5 times Middlweight Champion.

.Considered best Welterweight ever and by most boxing people best ever Middleweight.

.In many people's view the perfect fighter, could do it all. As the old saying goes ''If you could sit down and draw up plans to make a perfect fighter, the one you would make would probaly be damned close to Robinson''

.Said By Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali as the greatest Pound for Pound fighter ever lived.

Defeated 10 Hall of Famers and most more than once
Sammy Angottx3
Fritzie Zivicx2
Jake LaMottax5
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilanx2
Rocky Graziano
Randy Turpin
Bobo Olsonx2
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

You will probaly come back with more bogus answers, as you even think Marcaino slipped against Moore and Walcott, which is complete bogus.

And one more thing you do realize Muhammad Ali said Robinson was the best ever Pound 4 Pound fighter. Ali admitted this himself.

And it just makes you look so ****** when you say Ali would murder the natrual 147 to 160 Robinson. Like that is ment to change people's views in this debate, you make me laugh...........

Ohh, the Manmachine wannabe is catching feelings.

First of all, you need to get off your obsession with "hall of fame fighters". There are many in there that don't belong in the same category as others in there. And most importantly, the HOF lacks and extreme amount of all time greats. So you need to spend less time posting youtube clips imitating Manmachine, and start realising there is a diffirence between a HOFer and an ALL TIME GREAT.

So no I will not remove any of those names off Ali's impressive Ws list. They were good wins PERIOD. Or do you only rate a fighter by how many wins he has over HOFers? You are a joke that's only trying to hype up the overrated SRR.

And I gave you a list of what Ali has done because this thread is debating who's the greatest. And you tell me I can't read?

.At one point in his career, out of a 131 fights only 1 loss to Hall Of Famer Jake Lamotta, who had a 16 pound weight advantage on Ray, and a defeat in which he avenged 5 times. But yet you say Ali had the Most impressive and consistent record ever? You need to do your research....

And how in the blue hell does this mean Ali did not have the most impressive consistent record ever? Ali fought in the BEST era, a much better era than SRR's and he fought ALL of them. He only lost against an ALL TIME GREAT(get this, ATG not HOFer kiddo) Joe frazier after 3 YEARS of lay off in his prime years.

The rest of what you posted are merely opinions, not facts.

And yes Ali would murder SRR in a boxing match which means Ali could actually defeat any boxer in history, which you can't say about SRR.


Once again Ali's great wins:

George Foreman
Joe Frazier 2x
Sonny Liston 2x
Ken Norton 2x
Henry Cooper 2x
Floyd Patterson 2x
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Earnie Shavers
George Chuvalo
Cleveland Williams
Ernie Terrel
Zora Folley
Jerry Quarry
Oscar Bonavena
Jimmy Ellis
Mac Foster
Buster Mathis
Earnie Terrell
Bob Foster
Joe Bugner
Chuck Wepner
Leon Spinks

This is almost 30 great wins in a career consisting of over 60 fights. NO comparison. Ali is not only the greatest fighter but also one of the greatest athletes in general, some even consider him THE greatest sportsman ever.

[them_apples]

Hmmmm.......Demspey is a ATG, and was one of the most exciting fighters and biggest draws ever. But there is no hiding the fact that some boxing people seem overrate rate him to a extent, mainly Bert Sugar who ranks him as the 9th best fighter of all time, which is in my view far to high.

How high on the ATG list? being a big draw shouldn't make you go up in ranking, otherwise Oscar is the top G.

I would put him at perhaps number 15.

[StarshipTrooper]

amazing record, but consistent? I don't think so. also, not all of those names are great, some of them were pretty bad and gave Ali trouble. In fact, the best guys on that list, bar George Foreman beat him, or got controversial decisions against Ali.

Still, non the less, the best HW resume out there.

In fairness, though, you can make the same case for the record of practically any ATG one cares to name. Name the fighter and I can probably slice and dice his resume and make it look like ****e.

Poet