Ali was a ****

[Kid McCoy]

Because there is not a thread about them?

Ali was Human, and he played mind games with nearly every boxer he faced. Funny it takes a bias documentary for you to come out of your hole and criticize him now.

He admitted he is wrong, and wants to apologize, who, on earth, are YOU, to say otherwise?

It's time to Frazier to let go, do the right thing, and accept it.

So Ali spent years hurling racial insults at Frazier very publicly, to the extent that many of Frazier's own race turned against him and his kids were getting into fights at school over it, but it's all Frazier's fault for not laughing it off and saying "let's all be friends again"?

Frazier is human too, and some of the things Ali said and did would be hard for anyone to forgive. You weren't the one on the receiving end, so are you to say what Frazier should do?

[Hawkins]

Frazier is human too, and some of the things Ali said and did would be hard for anyone to forgive. You weren't the one on the receiving end, so are you to say what Frazier should do?

Especially, considering, that Ali was supposed to be his friend. Not only that but Joe did alot for Ali and ended up getting burnt.

[skyler]

Never really liked Ali seemed like a real *******.

[joseph5620]

I'm watchin gthe Thrilla in Manilla documentary. What he did to Frazier, turning almost every black american against him was wrong. To call him an uncle tom when he was his friend and helped him get back on his feet made him a complete *******.

Frazier helped Ali fight again because it meant millions of dollars for BOTH. There was something in it for Frazier too. And Frazier also continued to insult Ali by calling him "Clay". Both mean did things that were not right but I get sick of the demonizing of Ali to make Frazier look like an angel. Frazier can be ever bit as much an ******* as Ali.

[SweetSci]

ALI Was not a ****, This disgrace of a film was made by the Frasier camp. Thats all i have to say, never speak of the greatest that way

[Mugwump]

Ali's racial taunting of Frazier is a cold, hard fact.

The most pro-Frazier documentary conceivable would in no way affect it.

[TheGreatA]

Frazier helped Ali fight again because it meant millions of dollars for BOTH. There was something in it for Frazier too. And Frazier also continued to insult Ali by calling him "Clay". Both mean did things that were not right but I get sick of the demonizing of Ali to make Frazier look like an angel. Frazier can be ever bit as much an ******* as Ali.

I tend to agree with this. Ali had not come close to starting his "Uncle Tom" pre-fight promotion by the late 1960's yet the animosity between the two was very clear.

People might not understand it now but they were two world champions back when there were only supposed to be one.



This was from 1969.

[j]

Never really liked Ali seemed like a real *******.

i agree. dude had no class in those days.

[Hawkins]

Frazier helped Ali fight again because it meant millions of dollars for BOTH. There was something in it for Frazier too. And Frazier also continued to insult Ali by calling him "Clay". Both mean did things that were not right but I get sick of the demonizing of Ali to make Frazier look like an angel. Frazier can be ever bit as much an ******* as Ali.

Yes Frazier continued to call him Clay but that was only after Ali started with all of the Uncle Tom name calling.

[TheGreatA]

Yes Frazier continued to call him Clay but that was only after Ali started with all of the Uncle Tom name calling.

Ali didn't call Frazier a "Tom" until the pre-fight promotion for their 1971 match. Frazier always called Ali Cassius Clay.

He just didn't buy into it as Terrell and Patterson didn't. They were used to calling him Clay and had too much pride to start calling him Ali when Ali demanded it on live TV.

Afterwards Frazier started using the name Cassius Clay, overtly so, to anger Ali even more.