prime mike tyson vs prime roy jones jr

[elfag]

Someone tell the noobs giving Roy an ounce of chance that prime Tyson already fought an ATG lightheavy in Spinks and KTFO of that mofo in 1.


Seriously, Roy doesnt like pressure, he was backed up on the ropes not only by Tarver, but way back in 94 by Hopkins. Tyson does nothing but come forward. Tyson has a solid chin by heavyweight standards, Roy dont have the power to keep him off him, Roy is good as dead in this fight.

Its not only the weight thing but its a bad fight stylewise for Roy. Even if it was p4p and we had versions of them at the same weight, Tysons style combined with his speed, power and chin is just a terrible style for Roy who has a tendancy of being backed up on the ropes and dropping rounds, but if it was tyson backing him up on the ropes, he wouldnt just loose rounds, he'd be KTFO. And I would pick tyson in a mythical same size p4p fight too based on styles.

[Chr0nic]

the close-mindedness in this thread is great, now james tillis is better than roy jones
tyson's arms are about as long as his hands, ruiz lands on jones because unlike tyson, ruiz has a 4 inch advantage and a 4 inch height advantage over jones, mike tyson is as tall as jones with a reach 3 inches shorter than jones, and 34 year old jones was hardly prime, his footwork and speed had already depleted noticebly by then in the late 2000 era
and to the idiot who said ''jones opponents were just too ****** to cut off the ring from jones''...jones is known for his speed and athletism ya know? no? oh right ofcourse you dont, your talkin out your ass

why does a soccer player let another soccer player get by him? is it that they were too ****** to just cut off the path or is it that the opposing player was just overall better with more speed and could confuse and out manuever him? not that you'd know anything about this, i doubt any of you ever played soccer
think of football instead then

the whole point of me showing the tillis(tillis has been stopped 11 times in his career) versus tyson fight is because tillis moved, did you guys know that jones is known for his movement? I NEVER SAID JONES WOULD WIN, I NEVER SAID JONES WOULD NOT GET KO'D SOONER OR LATER, ALL IM SAYIN ****S....is that roy jones would be suprisingly competitive with mike tyson, and am making conversation as is to be done in a boxing forum, esspecially when it's a thread asking for opinions, i could careless if you lot do and odnt wanna read my opinions, but i think they are valid and was sharing, obviously it's not welcome so **** it, i rarely posted in here before why did i start now? i dunno, appreciate the red k versatile

[slicksouthpaw16]

There is really nothing to debate to be honest, lets be serious. Tyson would stop Jones within 4 rounds. The bottom line is that Roy at heavyweight doesn't have the power, size or strength to keep Tyson off of him, who naturally is five weight classes bigger than he is. Roy just wouldn't have an answer.

[Benny Leonard]

the close-mindedness in this thread is great, now james tillis is better than roy jones
tyson's arms are about as long as his hands, ruiz lands on jones because unlike tyson, ruiz has a 4 inch advantage and a 4 inch height advantage over jones, mike tyson is as tall as jones with a reach 3 inches shorter than jones, and 34 year old jones was hardly prime, his footwork and speed had already depleted noticebly by then in the late 2000 era
and to the idiot who said ''jones opponents were just too ****** to cut off the ring from jones''...jones is known for his speed and athletism ya know? no? oh right ofcourse you dont, your talkin out your ass

why does a soccer player let another soccer player get by him? is it that they were too ****** to just cut off the path or is it that the opposing player was just overall better with more speed and could confuse and out manuever him? not that you'd know anything about this, i doubt any of you ever played soccer
think of football instead then

the whole point of me showing the tillis(tillis has been stopped 11 times in his career) versus tyson fight is because tillis moved, did you guys know that jones is known for his movement? I NEVER SAID JONES WOULD WIN, I NEVER SAID JONES WOULD NOT GET KO'D SOONER OR LATER, ALL IM SAYIN ****S....is that roy jones would be suprisingly competitive with mike tyson, and am making conversation as is to be done in a boxing forum, esspecially when it's a thread asking for opinions, i could careless if you lot do and odnt wanna read my opinions, but i think they are valid and was sharing, obviously it's not welcome so **** it, i rarely posted in here before why did i start now? i dunno, appreciate the red k versatile

For Tillis: First, he is a TRUE HW who was KO'd by HWs.
You also have to remember at what point Tyson was at in his growth/experience period. From what I remember hearing, when Tyson fought Tillis, the longest he had gone in a fight was into the 6th round. Tyson and Rooney both explained that Mike was still nervous/worried up to that point with his stamina if he could last the full 10+ rounds. That fight was 10 rounds. Tyson started to coast during the fight when he knew he wasn't going to get Tillis out early so he used that fight as a growth experience. In the last round, towards the end of that round, Tyson realized he did have the endurance after all and it wasn't actually as bad as he thought it would be. The object was just to get rounds under his belts. He says later that going more rounds is more mental than anything. After that fight, his next fight was with Mitch Green. That fight went the distance as well but this time, when you compare Tyson, he is more relaxed and is enjoying himself throughout the fight and is in high-spirits afterwards. That's what is cool to watch about a young Tyson growing with each fight. And both Green and Tillis knew to tie up Tyson. How is Roy going to tie up Tyson?

tyson's arms are about as long as his hands, ruiz lands on jones because unlike tyson, ruiz has a 4 inch advantage and a 4 inch height advantage over jones, mike tyson is as tall as jones with a reach 3 inches shorter than jones

And yet Tyson was able to out-jab the 6'5+, 80+ inch reach Tony Tucker and the rest when at his best. Tyson beat the crap out of 6'6 Ribalta.



Looking at Jones Jr., he just doesn't have the frame size nor the chin to take Tyson's punches. And if runs backwards, Tyson sprints forward faster than Jones can get out of the way and he will be caught and taken out.
Peak vs. Peak; Tyson by KO.

[JAB5239]

jones had plenty of opponents before tarver that crowded him
my favourite is brannon, he just would not stop throwing untill, BAM! combo breaker consisting of a left to the face, left to the body, brannon **** his pants at that point

Did you actually make a comparison with Bryant Brannon and how Tyson would fight Jones? Its official.....your credibility is shot.

[JAB5239]

if jones could last about 3 round landing nicely then he takes it, tyson cannot take a beating at all

look here Mr. hawkins, you bein 35 and been boxing for over 17 years is great an all but maybe it affected your brain, which i would'nt be suprise, unfortunanetly it's part of the contract we sign upon entering the ring, but if you read my posts i never said jones would win, i just said tyson would' NOT go in and just push jones around without paying any price, all jones has to do is keep from getting hit flush which he was pretty damn good at if you ask me, and tyson aint faced a heavywieght nearly as fast as jones if we want to put this fantasy match-up in the heavyweight division
jones would also have a better chin due to moving up, but ofcourse this does'nt register as any real deal in your 'matured' mind

Ok, now you're a proven liar.

On top of that, Jones has never faced a fighter as fast as Tyson, let alone a heavyweight.

Not sure what makes you think Jones chin would be better at heavyweight. Bob Foster was a better lightheavy than Jones and he got starched when he moved to heavy. Billy Conn, starched when he fought the best heavy. Spinks, starched. Want me to keep going?

We're talking "prime" Tyson, 85' to 88'. Jones gets decapitated.

[Chr0nic]

Did you actually make a comparison with Bryant Brannon and how Tyson would fight Jones? Its official.....your credibility is shot.

you prove yourself to be a loser the more you reply to me, credibility? on the internet? there's such a thing?
and if you were'nt so blinded by your ******ity and impulse on attacking anyone that has a differrent veiw than you, you would have realised i never compared brannons skills to tyson, the post i made was a reply to another poster who posted ''the way to beat jones is by crowding him, just like tarver did''
my response to that was ''no, crowding only became the suppossed answer when jones dropped 25 pounds, jones had plenty of opponents that crowded him, ''my favourite brannon'' and in reality tarver never really crowded jones''

now where did you see tyson in that post?

[JAB5239]

Kids never change... always full of ****. Using the Tillis fight as an example of how a fight would go with Roy Jones? Why don't you stick to a sport more suited for your intellect...say horseshoes?

hahaha looks like it shut you the **** up anyway

Hawkins, he can use any fight he wants, Jones still loses. How about the Roy from the first Griffin fight since we're picking and choosing? How does he do against Tyson from the Berbick fight?

[JAB5239]

you prove yourself to be a loser the more you reply to me, credibility? on the internet? there's such a thing?
and if you were'nt so blinded by your ******ity and impulse on attacking anyone that has a differrent veiw than you, you would have realised i never compared brannons skills to tyson, the post i made was a reply to another poster who posted ''the way to beat jones is by crowding him, just like tarver did''
my response to that was ''no, crowding only became the suppossed answer when jones dropped 25 pounds, jones had plenty of opponents that crowded him, ''my favourite brannon'' and in reality tarver never really crowded jones''

now where did you see tyson in that post?

Sure there is such a thing as credibility on the internet. There are many posters here that are widely respected for their knowledge and opinions on this forum. You aren't one of them. In fact, the more you post the less respected you are here. C-R-E-D-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y. If you aren't smart enough to figure this out how can anybody take you seriously?

And whether you said Tysons name is irrelevant. You used Brannon as an example of how mike might fight Jones and why it wouldn't work for Tyson, even though Brannon fought at 168 and was never more than a fringe contender.

[Chr0nic]

Hawkins, he can use any fight he wants, Jones still loses. How about the Roy from the first Griffin fight since we're picking and choosing? How does he do against Tyson from the Berbick fight?

honestly, i've given up on this thread, i could care less what you have to say, your probabley typin in a long reply mocking my last post or some****, and i could really careless