prime mike tyson vs prime roy jones jr

[JAB5239]

tyson was a *****, he was too mentally weak, the only bad thing for jones is tyson is just as big if not a bit bigger than him and is nearly as fast a puncher in heavyweight with a bigger punch but jones has the advantage in reach and he would be faster moving backwards than tyson moving foward and catch tyson a good amount of times with that wide ass left hook of his
and i still stand by my statement, tyson is weak mentally and if jones landed enough he'd practically give up

You know how people write "lol"? I actually did laugh out loud at this entire post.

you act as if tyson is some gigantic impervious creature with unmatched strenght, just because someone is stronger does'nt mean you cant still hold his arms down, jones can clinch, circle, break and left hook like he always does, it would'nt be a complete shutout like you lot make it out to be, he was human ya know
and tyson never really jolted foward he just walked towards you in a peek-a-boo stance waiting to counter or throw a body punch
if you think ali could beat tyson, well jones is practically a smaller version of ali but with better footwork and reflexes

Im gonna pick you apart slowly here and let you squirm.

First...Tyson didn't just "walk towards you". He came in at angles with incredibly fast feet and threw combonations that were not only more powerful than anything Jones has ever felt, they were probably faster than anyones punches Jones has ever faced.

Second...while Jones has incredible reflexes, his footwork was no where near that of a prime Ali. On top of that he doesn't have the size, power or jab to discourage Tyson.

what do you see tyson upon the beggining bell just leap across the ring as fast as a bullet and coming in with an overhand right to covered up jones temple, shaking him there then continuing to batter jones up against a corner? get real man, key word ''human'', not ''jet fighter''

(shaking my head) What I see is Jones on his bicycle and trying to pot shot while Tyson stalks him and batters him in the body till finding an opening for the ko.

Jones couldn't stop John Ruiz, was dropped by Lou DeValle and was being outfought by Montell Griffin the first time around. In his prime. Tyson is bigger, stronger, faster and better than all these guys. The only time a lightheavy stepped up against Tyson he was seperated from his senses in 91 seconds. And that man (Spinks) was arguably the greatest, at least top 5, lightheavy ever.

If anyone needs to get real here son, its you. Looking at your age I can forgive your lack of knowledge. But you are old enough that you should be able to apply a little common sense.

[Chr0nic]

apply a little common sense.

and then you say this...

Second...while Jones has incredible reflexes, his footwork was no where near that of a prime Ali.

first off 17 the smarts is the same as a 20-40 year old right, so if im wrong im wrong, like someone has never been wrong i dunno why the **** your bringing age into this

and second, wow, ali better foot work than jones? i think your a proper dumbass no lie, you have a good argument with the jones vs tyson issue but saying ali had better footwork than jones is ****** as ****, what just because ali hopped around non-stop every round? have you ever seen jones fight? are you one of those people that are so blind as to believe the old school is the best and there will never be anything better than those fighters that fought in black and white or close enough to it?

[JAB5239]

first off 17 the smarts is the same as a 20-40 year old right, so if im wrong im wrong, like someone has never been wrong i dunno why the **** your bringing age into this

I never said you weren't smart, though Im now questioning your reading comprehension skills. I said you lack knowledge. Knowledge is something only attained with time and research.

and second, wow, ali better foot work than jones? i think your a proper dumbass no lie, you have a good argument with the jones vs tyson issue but saying ali had better footwork than jones is ****** as ****, what just because ali hopped around non-stop every round? have you ever seen jones fight? are you one of those people that are so blind as to believe the old school is the best and there will never be anything better than those fighters that fought in black and white or close enough to it?

You are so ignorant its astounding. I've probably seen every Jones fight and close to all of Ali's. Prime ali hands down had better footwork than Jones. You don't know this because you've probably only seen the Foreman and Frazier fights and maybe the Liston fight. There has never been a fighter at any weight as fleet footed as Ali. This isn't about who's old school and who isn't, its about facts. You should get yours straight before posting rubbish. I've already showed you how and why Tyson would beat Jones. Do I have to walk you through this too?

[Kid McCoy]

So Jones who got sparked out twice in succession by the best light-heavies he ever faced is going to mow down Tyson. I've heard of nuthugging but this takes the biscuit!

[Chr0nic]

So Jones who got sparked out twice in succession by the best light-heavies he ever faced is going to mow down Tyson. I've heard of nuthugging but this takes the biscuit!

you mean the tyson that got knocked out 5 times by the best heavyweights he ever fought? ala half of which were nobodies, Tarver was atleast a number 1 contender at the time i believe

[RRICAN]

this is like the foreman-moorer fight. jr will beat mike with his speed but if mike traps jr (at his prime he had the footwork to do it) believe me he'll be KTFO!!!!

[Kid McCoy]

you mean the tyson that got knocked out 5 times by the best heavyweights he ever fought? ala half of which were nobodies, Tarver was atleast a number 1 contender at the time i believe

Why do you think John Ruiz was the only heavyweight Jones ever fought? Tyson is not John Ruiz. It's a good thing Jones had more sense than some of his fans do.

Buster Douglas was a 6'4", 240lb heavyweight and was ranked in the top ten when he fought Tyson. There's no comparison between Jones and the guys who beat Tyson.

[Squabbles94806]

Tyson would eat Jones up within 4 rounds. They're both short, but Tyson had way more explosion. Jones is an entertainer, not a fighter. Tyson is an animal, not a fighter.

Tyson would smother Jones.

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Tyson KO round 2


Jones vs Holyfield would be a better fight, slightly more competitive.

[Chr0nic]

Why do you think John Ruiz was the only heavyweight Jones ever fought? Tyson is not John Ruiz. It's a good thing Jones had more sense than some of his fans do.

Buster Douglas was a 6'4", 240lb heavyweight and was ranked in the top ten when he fought Tyson. There's no comparison between Jones and the guys who beat Tyson.

jones called out tyson, where was tyson?
holyfield beat the **** outta tyson, what happened to him when he fought toney? where do you rank bernard hopkins right about now?
what? toney was weight drained? hopkins was green?
micheal spinks was lanky 6 foot 3 inch man obviously talor made for heavyweight, dunno wtf he was doin in lightheavy beaten by tyson 5'10? tyson really that good or spinks just overrated like ****? bit of both
larry holmes, **** 39 was it? i dunno but seems to me like tyson was just beaten on an already beaten old man
who else is there in tysons resume that all that great? hmm, dnt see one

roy jones 5'10 john ruiz, hwo tall is this guy? somewhere above six foot anyway, about 3-4 inches taller than jones weighing about 20 pounds more than jones so hmm

jones notable wins, james toney, virgil hill, john ruiz and bernard hopkins, maybe even reggie johnson, i personally think johnson was a very good fighter

tyson notable wins, tucker, spinks, holmes

who's ranked higher p4p in the atg list, bernard hopkins seems to be miles above all of tysons opponents, james toney an atg above all also, maybe behind holmes, but spinks? **** no

looks to me like jones fought the better competition, sure you could say both of them never lost in their primes, but when was tysons prime? he was pretty prime against douglas, but mental issues you say? ok but he was 24

roy jones, no mental issues but he did drop 25 pounds and was lookin at one weight drained, second time shaky as **** and was 34-35? i dont really know or care but fact is roy jones would'nt be a walk in the park for anyone and he was very strong for his size him and both tyson are both probabley the only men which i've seen people describe them in their primes as being near enough invincible.

one roy jones did not have a weak chin
two mike tyson can punch but he's more of an in fighter which is really when he lands his most devestating punches when he is leaning on his opponents
three roy jones had very fast reflexes(ergo the ongoing statements that he never got hit flush in his carrer, not true ofcourse but it was very seldom) with incredible speed followed by jaw dropping combinations which carried both power and speed
four you lot make it out like the opponents against tyson dont have arms, like tyson would go in thier like some emotionalless robot and there'd be nothin stopping him from just walkin in through his opponents defence and land his famous body hook, head uppercut or that tight leaping left hook
five you have to take note that heavywieght jones was not prime jones, prime jones is more along the lines of jones vs mcclallum, thornton, hall and dont forget hill, have'nt seen tyson break anybodies ribs

tyson would probabley beat jones, im just sayin it'd be more competitive than you peeps make out it out to be
both these guys at a young age were exploited to the fullest when it came to boxing and training