The Lewis Era vs. The Klitschko Era

[RightCross94]

** UnHoly is 0-4-1 in title bouts this decade. Last contender he beat was when he headbutted his way to a technical decision over Rahman 7 long years ago.

Yeah, I guess you could say he's fighting at the top of the trash heap.

umm i wonder why hes 0-4-1 in title bouts this decade LRR?

it wouldnt have anything to do with the fact hes in his forties and should have retired ten years ago would it?

and plus he got robbed vs valuev, utter bull****

[RightCross94]

Holyfield was considered shot after the last Bowe fight but he came up with a great performance against Tyson and Moorer but he was not as good as he was back in the late 80's and early 90's his combinations in those days were brilliant, by 99 he was past his best although still a good fighter compare the 2nd Bowe fight with the first Lewis fight and imo there is a big difference. As for Bowe I agree that he didn’t want to fight Lewis when he had the title but I have seen a Frank Maloney interview where he said they had signed a contract to fight Bowe if Lewis beat McCall which he didn’t. Lewis has better wins than Wlad not saying he didn’t.

thats what people dont realise, when idiots like LRR complain about all holyfields losses etc they need to realise as far back as '96 when bowe TKO'd him evander was considered done, he even retired briefly around then as he was battling some kind of heart condition also, in fact 7 of evanders ten losses have come after 37 if im not mistaken

[Davros?]

Bowe took something out of Evander, which was a bit of his reflexes and maybe a bit of his speed, as well as a tiny bit of his endurance. That is in no way "SHOT". Shot is Tyson against Lewis, Ali vs Holmes etc.

By 99 Evander had come off a 5 victory streak after the last Bowe fight including 2 over Tyson and one over Moorer(needless to say, after Holyfield was done with these men they were never at the top again.)
I dare to say this was Holyfield at his best because of his experience at this point.

So Lewis definitely deserves a lot of credit mate.

I am not saying he was shot that’s what everyone was saying back then, anyway Holyfield was more experienced but he was not the same fighter he was before the 2nd Bowe fight, The last great performance of Holyfield's career was probably his 2nd fight with Moorer but even by that point he was not firing off the combos like he was against Foreman, Bowe or his great fight against Micheal Dokes, even by the time of the Tyson fight you could tell Holyfield had lost some of his speed, I give Lewis a lot of credit for the win but Holyfield was defiantly not at his peak by that point.

[Davros?]

thats what people dont realise, when idiots like LRR complain about all holyfields losses etc they need to realise as far back as '96 when bowe TKO'd him evander was considered done, he even retired briefly around then as he was battling some kind of heart condition also, in fact 7 of evanders ten losses have come after 37 if im not mistaken

Yeah i remember the heart problem in the 3rd Bowe fight Foreman kept saying Holyfield could die and they need to get oxygen in his corner and stop the fight.

[LondonRingRules]

umm i wonder why hes 0-4-1 in title bouts this decade LRR?

it wouldnt have anything to do with the fact hes in his forties and should have retired ten years ago would it?

and plus he got robbed vs valuev, utter bull****

** Lordy, Lordy, a big ol' for Lordy Voldy.

Poor dear's been a legacy scalp ever since he stood up to mean ol' bullies for millions of pimply faced boys by showing up rusty Iron Mike ages ago. Means today, they have to take him out of his coffin and prop him up in the ring long enough to get the bout recorded officially in order to notch his scalp in the record.

The last time he actually "fought" someone near the top this decade was when he softened up Rahman with a few juicy headbutts and took a technical decision some 7 yrs ago. Rest of the time, any contender with a pulse just walked him down or moved him around the ring as any proper minder might move his charge around.

Oliver McCall is actually a better fighter this decade, being 44 yrs to the UnHoly 46, and sporting a 51-9 career record compared to UH 42-10-2 record padded out with all those cruiser fights. Ollie is 14-2 this decade with wins over once defeated Akinwande, Yankee Diaz, and Samail Sam compared to UH's "wins" over Rahman and Oquendo and a 5-6-1 record.

The major difference being Ollie being a crackhaid with UnHoly being a juicer, and Ollie having the unstable Golota and Tyson like meltdowns and legal problems instead of the legacy scalp of UH thanks to Tyson. Don King wouldn't let Ollie within a mile of Mike save a few sparring sessions.

Lest there be any question about Ollies ring veracity, with virtually no acclaim at all, prior to this decade he had significant wins over Holmes and Damioni, and the first ever to both beat and KO Seldon, Maskaev, and Lewis.

And no, having a senior moment and thinkin' you're audtioning for Dancing with the Stars don't qualify UnHoly for a win over Valuev. Anyone's nan could kick up her heels and do the same in Switzerland which don't even have a boxing commision. Niko is a gentleman and won't ever be known for bullying addled silly 'ol billygoats around, indeed, they got to keep UH undamaged so King can continue rotating him around for cheap legacy scalps.

Anyone can stand in front of UnHoly and make fun of him with impugnity and the poor dear can't do a darned thing about it, but you'd make a mistake doing that with Ollie. Guy could break you in two in a flash and then dash down to the nearest crack house and forget all about you....