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  • F l i c k e r
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boogie Nights
    Ironic you say that, because Patterson knocked out Moore to become the then youngest heavyweight champion.

    *SIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHH*
    Made a mistake. Oh well. I forgot your the all knowning boxing god.... sarcasm.

    edit- Your wasting your time trying to make someone look ******. Do something valuable with your time.
    Last edited by F l i c k e r; 03-23-2009, 08:20 PM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
      Made a mistake. Oh well. I forgot your the all knowning boxing god.... sarcasm.

      edit- Your wasting your time trying to make someone look ******. Do something valuable with your time.
      im not trying to make anyone look ******. I pointed out your mistake.

      the difference with me, i dont comment on things that i know very little about. I look at facts, you look at digits.

      this digit makes everyone look ****** though when they bring it up

      49-0

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      • them_apples
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        #13
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        Made a mistake. Oh well. I forgot your the all knowning boxing god.... sarcasm.

        edit- Your wasting your time trying to make someone look ******. Do something valuable with your time.
        It's pretty obvious you don't know what I mean. Rocky is a tough dude, he has a shot at beating the lower tier heavyweights, but the upper echelon he does not (or at least a very high chance). Rocky struggled greatly with opponents that most "greats" would have manhandled at the time he fought them.

        This was only Ali's 15th pro fight.

        Last edited by them_apples; 03-23-2009, 08:27 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by them_apples
          It's pretty obvious you don't know what I mean. Rocky is a tough dude, he has a shot at beating the lower tier heavyweights, but the upper echelon he does not (or at least a very high chance). Rocky struggled greatly with opponents that most "greats" would have manhandled at the time he fought them.

          This was only Ali's 15th pro fight.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zg-xZadHGc
          Moore was around 50 years old though...

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            #15
            Originally posted by Boogie Nights
            im not trying to make anyone look ******. I pointed out your mistake.

            the difference with me, i dont comment on things that i know very little about. I look at facts, you look at digits.

            this digit makes everyone look ****** though when they bring it up

            49-0
            People make mistakes. Doesn't mean I know very little. A person who knew little wouldn't know Marciano holds the highest KO% in history.


            Originally posted by them_apples
            It's pretty obvious you don't know what I mean. Rocky is a tough dude, he has a shot at beating the lower tier heavyweights, but the upper echelon he does not (or at least a very high chance). Rocky struggled greatly with opponents that most "greats" would have manhandled at the time he fought them.

            This was only Ali's 15th pro fight.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zg-xZadHGc
            That was the great thing about Marciano. He would struggle but come up with a win. That is what makes him great. He would just never quit. You had to kill him to win. He struggled because he didn't have any talent. Even you can respect that. All the greats have something that make them 'great'.

            Ali is his grace and speed.
            Foreman is his power.
            Marciano is his heart.

            How can you beat something that never quit(never stayed down) and hit you in the 15th round just as hard as he hit you in the 1st?

            In the words of Floyd Patterson: "Jersey Joe Walcott had made him miss for twelve rounds and then Rocky took his title away in the thirteenth."

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              #16
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              People make mistakes. Doesn't mean I know very little. A person who knew little wouldn't know Marciano holds the highest KO% in history.




              That was the great thing about Marciano. He would struggle but come up with a win. That is what makes him great. He would just never quit. You had to kill him to win. He struggled because he didn't have any talent. Even you can respect that. All the greats have something that make them 'great'.

              Ali is his grace and speed.
              Foreman is his power.
              Marciano is his heart.

              How can you beat something that never quit(never stayed down) and hit you in the 15th round just as hard as he hit you in the 1st?

              In the words of Floyd Patterson: "Jersey Joe Walcott had made him miss for twelve rounds and then Rocky took his title away in the thirteenth."
              Man, don't waste your breath on these lamebrains. You are right and they are wrong. I've tried time and time again to knock some sense into them, but their heads are harder than Marciano's.

              They just don't get it - and never will.

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                #17
                Originally posted by TheManchine
                Moore was around 50 years old though...
                wasn't he 46?

                even then, he was old when Rocky fought him to.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                  People make mistakes. Doesn't mean I know very little. A person who knew little wouldn't know Marciano holds the highest KO% in history.




                  That was the great thing about Marciano. He would struggle but come up with a win. That is what makes him great. He would just never quit. You had to kill him to win. He struggled because he didn't have any talent. Even you can respect that. All the greats have something that make them 'great'.

                  Ali is his grace and speed.
                  Foreman is his power.
                  Marciano is his heart.

                  How can you beat something that never quit(never stayed down) and hit you in the 15th round just as hard as he hit you in the 1st?

                  In the words of Floyd Patterson: "Jersey Joe Walcott had made him miss for twelve rounds and then Rocky took his title away in the thirteenth."
                  I didn't say he wasn't great, i have no problem accepting him as a great. It's when you guys like to think he wups Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Foreman and Holyfield, that I start to question your judgment.

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                    #19
                    I just dont like when people try to downplay someone so great just because his record was spotless. People seem to hate the guys who are undefeated but you have to give them respect.

                    "Just look at Rocky Marciano's record. Nobody beat him. You can't take that from him. Only because he depended solely on his left hook do I rate Joe Frazier below Marciano. Marciano could hit with both hands." -George Foreman

                    "As you see, I didn't make the list... The first time around, George Foreman was too mean and too crude. The second time around, too sophisticated and too publicity conscious to exploit his power..." -George Foreman

                    George Foreman's Heavyweight list-

                    1. Joe Louis
                    2. Rocky Marciano
                    3. Jack Johnson
                    4. Muhammad Ali
                    5. Joe Frazier
                    6. Jack Dempsey
                    7. Mike Tyson
                    8. Sonny Liston
                    9. Floyd Patterson
                    10. Evander Holyfield

                    Honorable Mention:
                    Max Baer
                    Ezzard Charles
                    Jersey Joe Walcott


                    Second only to another ATG on Foreman's list.... Joe Louis.

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                    • F l i c k e r
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by them_apples
                      I didn't say he wasn't great, i have no problem accepting him as a great. It's when you guys like to think he wups Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Foreman and Holyfield, that I start to question your judgment.

                      I respect that but I never said that he would woop(in my words: dominate) any of those guys. I said he has a great chance of beating them.

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