Marciano

[0Rooster4Life0]

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Considering what a vicious killer he was inside the ring, Marciano was sure polite and humble on the outside.

But Rooster, your fine efforts are wasted. The Rocky admirers on thisforum are few and far between.

[them_apples]

Considering what a vicious killer he was inside the ring, Marciano was sure polite and humble on the outside.

But Rooster, your fine efforts are wasted. The Rocky admirers on thisforum are few and far between.

If people like you kept his "greatness" at a realistic level, I'd have no problem accepting him as a good fighter.

I'ts only recently when a few posters, mainly knighte and you started talking him up like he'd stop any heavyweight in the history of the sport.

Saying that, his power was tested at 1000 psi (or was it lbs of force) that's nothing amazing for a good heavyweight, It's not terrible, but nothing close to the hardest ever. Even then we don't know how accurate that is. I've heard Frank Bruno hit harder than that and he wasn't even considered a huge puncher.

EDIT: 630 kg for frank bruno bare fist..(1388 lbs of force)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=3936571

do the math i guess, I don't know how credible that site is, but we don't know how credible the Rocky source is ether.

[F l i c k e r]

If people like you kept his "greatness" at a realistic level, I'd have no problem accepting him as a good fighter.

I'ts only recently when a few posters, mainly knighte and you started talking him up like he'd stop any heavyweight in the history of the sport.

Saying that, his power was tested at 1000 psi (or was it lbs of force) that's nothing amazing for a good heavyweight, It's not terrible, but nothing close to the hardest ever. Even then we don't know how accurate that is. I've heard Frank Bruno hit harder than that and he wasn't even considered a huge puncher.

EDIT: 630 kg for frank bruno bare fist..(1388 lbs of force)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=3936571

do the math i guess, I don't know how credible that site is, but we don't know how credible the Rocky source is ether.

I understand what you mean by keeping him realistic. He does has a chance of stopping every heavyweight though.

We can only go by his career numbers. Just by that you have to automatically give him the edge on any fighter. He is undefeated. Then you take into consideration that he has the highest KO% in the history of the sport. Then with that, you get a KO victory. Then you watch over all his fights and see he gets knocked down a tone of times. So his heart isn't in question. So with that said, you get..... Marciano by KO.

However to say he would never lose is 'unrealistic' because he might show up on an off day and get a loss. Maybe the ref stops it from a cut. Maybe he slips on some sweat and the call it a down. Whacky things happen all the time in sports. So there is always a chance of losing. But from his record and stats, he more than likely wouldn't lose.

In other words: The chances of him losing are slim.

[them_apples]

I understand what you mean by keeping him realistic. He does has a chance of stopping every heavyweight.

We can only go by his career numbers. Just by that you have to automatically give him the edge on any fighter. He is undefeated. Then you take into consideration that he has the highest KO% in the history of the sport. Then with that, you get a KO victory. Then you watch over all his fights and see he gets knocked down a tone of times. So his heart isn't in question. So with that said, you get..... Marciano by KO.

However to say he would never lose is 'unrealistic' because he might show up on an off day and get a loss. Maybe the ref stops it from a cut. Maybe he slips on some sweat and the call it a down. Whacky things happen all the time in sports. So there is always a chance of losing. But from his record and stats, he more than likely wouldn't lose.

In other words: The chances of him losing are slim.

yea but look who he fought, that logic doesn't really work.

[MonsieurGeorges]

The Rock had an incredible story and is truly a landmark fighter and an american sports icon! cheers

[F l i c k e r]

yea but look who he fought, that logic doesn't really work.

If you look at it from the perspective of living back then. Those guys he fought were considered dangerous match ups and great fighters.


Do you think 50+ years from now people will remember Cotto, Clottey, Pavlik etc? Nope. Only a few fighters are remembered forever. If Marciano wouldn't have retired just to fight people of Ali's era. He would have been 41 by the time Ali had gotten his first title shot(assuming he held the title till then). So if you had expected him to fight Liston, Foreman, Frazier etc.(whom all wouldn't have earned a title shot yet) He would be B-Hopkins old or dead.

If you meant you wanted to see him fight Floyd Patterson? If Archie Moore knocked him out, Marciano would have knocked him out too.

[Boogie Nights]

I understand what you mean by keeping him realistic. He does has a chance of stopping every heavyweight though.

No.

you dont understand at all what he means by keeping him realistic.

[Boogie Nights]

If you meant you wanted to see him fight Floyd Patterson? If Archie Moore knocked him out, Marciano would have knocked him out too.

Ironic you say that, because Patterson knocked out Moore to become the then youngest heavyweight champion.

*SIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHH*

[F l i c k e r]

No.

you dont understand at all what he means by keeping him realistic.

How do i not? He means, step into every era regardless of skill and beat them. KO, one hit and bam the night is over. That is unrealistic. Saying a man with no footwork, very little athletic ability would come into the ring and would dominate anyone and everyone including other great fighters.

Keeping him realistic is, he has a chance to win. He has the power and heart to win. That is all of marciano's attributes. Incredible power and heart of no other boxer.