10 greatest resumes

[them_apples]

ali, holyfield, sugar ray leonard, duran, de la hoya, hearns all deserve mentions too

they won't get mentioned sadly enough.

Ali definently needs to be there, if not higher

[them_apples]

** Your criteria is great "amorphous" resume, not record. The fighters I picked had well over 100 fights, in some cases 300 plus and dozens of those fights are against HOFers if not noted top contenders in their day.

In spite of the doggerel poet who ignores me by following me around like a puppy making a mess everywhere he goes, by striking Walker and not adding Louis, it wouldn't follow that I "hate" them any more than I "hate" Ali.

If Ali is as great as touted, he should be able to stand on his own merits without an artificial fanboy boost by me. With only 61 fights, he falls short of modern records of Foreman/Louis whom aren't on my list. My list ain't a threat to the greatness of Ali, it's a threat to the typical fanboy cum cheerleader who never bothers to think beyond him.

Now, of course Ali's much more than that, how much more open to debate, but 14 HOFers on his record is nothing compared to the dozen+ times Langford took on Jeannette and vice versa and so on and so forth. As I alluded, Jeannette not the most gifted slugger/boxer, but he had incredible ring intelligence and grit and willing to fight any one. With all his wins coming AFTER early meetings with a prime Jack Johnson, his resume is outstanding enough that only a few can surpass.

how the hell does having 300 fights have anything to do with skill or resume? Chances are he probably has near 300 losses to *sarcasm*

You count Ali out because he only fought 60 some odd times, yet he would have destroyed the names you mentioned. Boxing is a 1 vs 1 sport, generally the better fighters are greater.

resume should be based mostly on opponents faced, beaten and longevity of title reigns.

[Kid McCoy]

One fighter I've been watching a lot of recently...**** Tiger. Tiger has wins over Joey Giardello, Gene Fullmer, Nino Benvenuti, Jose Torres (Hall of Famers all), as well as well-regarded contenders like Hurricane Carter, Florentino Fernandez, Spider Webb, Don Fullmer and Henry Hank. He also lost a very close decision to Emile Griffith.

He's one of only two men to be undisputed middleweight and light-heavyweight champ, Bob Fitzsimmons being the other. Incidentally when Hopkins challenged Tarver, much was made of him replicating Sugar Ray Robinson in moving up to win the light-heavy title, but no mention whatsoever of Tiger, who actually succeeded.

Not saying he's top ten, but he does have a damn fine resume.

[1SILVA]

He is 1-2 against Loi

Thanks for the correction. My mistake

[1SILVA]

One fighter I've been watching a lot of recently...**** Tiger. Tiger has wins over Joey Giardello, Gene Fullmer, Nino Benvenuti, Jose Torres (Hall of Famers all), as well as well-regarded contenders like Hurricane Carter, Florentino Fernandez, Spider Webb, Don Fullmer and Henry Hank. He also lost a very close decision to Emile Griffith.

He's one of only two men to be undisputed middleweight and light-heavyweight champ, Bob Fitzsimmons being the other. Incidentally when Hopkins challenged Tarver, much was made of him replicating Sugar Ray Robinson in moving up to win the light-heavy title, but no mention whatsoever of Tiger, who actually succeeded.

Not saying he's top ten, but he does have a damn fine resume.

Emile Griffith's resume is also very impreesive. Wins over Luis Rodriguez, Florentino Fernandez, Denny Moyer, Benny Paret, Ralph Dupas, **** Tiger, Joey Archer and Nino Benvenuti. He basically fought everyone from 147-160 in his career from 1960 to 1977

[Two Fisted Piston]

James Toney?

Nunn, Johnson, McCallum x3, Barkley, RJJ, Griffin x2, Jirov, Holyfield, Rahman x2, Peter x2, Oquendo, Guinn, Ruiz, Thorton..


Well of present fighters hes gotta a good one..

[LondonRingRules]

You count Ali out because he only fought 60 some odd times, yet he would have destroyed the names you mentioned. Boxing is a 1 vs 1 sport, generally the better fighters are greater.

resume should be based mostly on opponents faced, beaten and longevity of title reigns.

** Some mighty rare nonsense there.

One on THE GREAT ONE, Frazier, Norton, Leon, Holmes, and Berbick all beat Ali handily the first ever time they met him in the ring.

Not to mention claims by Jones, Cooper, more claims by Norton, Young, and a few more.

Seems one on one only applies to unproven hypothetical nonsense you conjure up about Ali beating whomever it is that you fancy in the moment.

Fact: Ali has a weak resume compared to the ten I put forth by just about any measure possible. Whether or not Ali can beat Robinson, Pep, or Jeannette in the safety your Ali shrine is irrelevant.

Nobody ever beat Rocky who also has a claim over Ali. So, put that in your temple incense holder and fire it up since Rocky's is likely the most talked about storied resume by the masses in boxing history.

[KostyaTszyu44]

** Some mighty rare nonsense there.

One on THE GREAT ONE, Frazier, Norton, Leon, Holmes, and Berbick all beat Ali handily the first ever time they met him in the ring.

Not to mention claims by Jones, Cooper, more claims by Norton, Young, and a few more.

Seems one on one only applies to unproven hypothetical nonsense you conjure up about Ali beating whomever it is that you fancy in the moment.

Fact: Ali has a weak resume compared to the ten I put forth by just about any measure possible. Whether or not Ali can beat Robinson, Pep, or Jeannette in the safety your Ali shrine is irrelevant.

Nobody ever beat Rocky who also has a claim over Ali. So, put that in your temple incense holder and fire it up since Rocky's is likely the most talked about storied resume by the masses in boxing history.

are you insane?? berbick and holmes and spinks only beat ali because he was shot and probably beginning to become affected by parkinsons

i wont even bother to respond to the other rubbish, how anyone could think ali has a weak resume is beyond me

[Verstyle]

It's not a good list if you don't have Holyfield and Lewis.

[StarshipTrooper]

are you insane?? berbick and holmes and spinks only beat ali because he was shot and probably beginning to become affected by parkinsons

i wont even bother to respond to the other rubbish, how anyone could think ali has a weak resume is beyond me

Because, as I mentioned before, he is an Ali hater and has made it his life's work to discredit "The Greatest". Anyone who thinks Ali actually IS the best Heavyweight of all time and actually has best resume compared to other Heavyweights is automatically an Ali nuthugger in his book, whether they are actually Ali fans or not. He simply can't get past his hatred of the man and make any kind of objective evaluation. His touting of Marciano's record is, I think, telling: Marciano never faced an in-prime ATG and his overall opposition was relatively weak especially when compared to Ali's. The early 1950s was a "down" period for the Heavyweight division.

Of course, it could also be that he's smoking crack

Poet