Why is it Marciano still talked about like he is this all time great fighter when

[JAB5239]

It's a little late but here it is:



Primo Carnera vs Joe Louis:

Just goes to show that even two of todays finer "technitions" can look like crap at the wrong speed and with black and white film.

By the way, the music was simply classic!!

Your contributions are always appreciated my friend, but thank you again for going out of your way on this one. You the man!

[StarshipTrooper]

By the way, the music was simply classic!!

Music from Benny Hill if I remember right.

Poet

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Marciano was and is a legend because you don't measure a fighter against other fighters of other era's, you measure them against their own era.

Marciano was a beast, he might not have had the size but he was a warrior.

[TheGreatA]

Just goes to show that even two of todays finer "technitions" can look like crap at the wrong speed and with black and white film.

By the way, the music was simply classic!!

Your contributions are always appreciated my friend, but thank you again for going out of your way on this one. You the man!

I also made a comparison between Bernard Hopkins (vs Calzaghe) and Jack Johnson. As you can probably imagine, Hopkins' clinching and Calzaghe's slapping didn't look too good on grainy, black & white film.

I had trouble uploading it though, I'll see if I can put it up on youtube sometime soon.

[Slimey Limey]

Marciano was and is a legend because you don't measure a fighter against other fighters of other era's, you measure them against their own era..

ZING

That's exactly right and since no one was as consistent as in their own era as Marciano was he deserves to be considered one of the greatest of all time.

[AztecWanker]

Hey, you're the one who brought up Angelo Dundee's gym.

Fair enough

Because George Foreman, Sonny Liston, and Earnie Shavers (all harder punchers than Sad Wlad) couldn't do it so why would anyone with half a brain think Wlad the Short Bus Rider could?

Right cause Wlad fights exactly like those guys. Apparently you didn't see how Shane cracked Tony's chin. It was his style that did it. He broke Tony to the body, controlled him on the inside and ultimately got the KO. Given Wlad's style, a puncher's chance seems logical.

I don't have to try and insult you. All I do is hold up your patently idiotic statements for the ridicule it deserves.

Idiotic statements? How are "A puncher always has a chance" and "The sport has evolved" idiotic statements? Idiotic are people that argue those points after we've seen them proved time after time.

[StarshipTrooper]

Right cause Wlad fights exactly like those guys. Apparently you didn't see how Shane cracked Tony's chin. It was his style that did it. He broke Tony to the body, controlled him on the inside and ultimately got the KO. Given Wlad's style, a puncher's chance seems logical.

For starters Foreman, Liston and Shavers were all better fighters AND harder punchers than Wlad so you're point is idiotic since you're saying he can do something that better men had tried and failed to do. Further, Mosley didn't "crack" Margarito's chin he piled up an accumulation of punches that took it's toll. Wlad would not be accumulating punches on Ali: He was neither fast enough or good enough.

Idiotic statements? How are "A puncher always has a chance" and "The sport has evolved" idiotic statements? Idiotic are people that argue those points after we've seen them proved time after time.

You spout phrases that you have little understanding of the meaning of. Nothing you have said represents the final word on any subject touched upon here. The truth is you flat out do not know what the **** you're talking about. You take things that are hardly universally accepted and pretend they are settle truth and use it as the premise for your very flawed logic.

Poet

[AztecWanker]

For starters Foreman, Liston and Shavers were all better fighters AND harder punchers than Wlad so you're point is idiotic since you're saying he can do something that better men had tried and failed to do. Further, Mosley didn't "crack" Margarito's chin he piled up an accumulation of punches that took it's toll. Wlad would not be accumulating punches on Ali: He was neither fast enough or good enough.

No ****, Sherlock. How else do you crack chins?? Then you say Wlad would not land on Ali, this is Boxing, everyone gets hit in every fight. Even Ali.

You spout phrases that you have little understanding of the meaning of. Nothing you have said represents the final word on any subject touched upon here. The truth is you flat out do not know what the **** you're talking about. You take things that are hardly universally accepted and pretend they are settle truth and use it as the premise for your very flawed logic.

Poet

You really are stuck in the past. You are a sad case, Poet. Good luck in your life.

[StarshipTrooper]

No ****, Sherlock. How else do you crack chins?? Then you say Wlad would not land on Ali, this is Boxing, everyone gets hit in every fight. Even Ali.

You really are stuck in the past. You are a sad case, Poet. Good luck in your life.

Come back when you get an education and a clue Junior. You really ARE stuck in a tunnel vision of reality.

Poet

[AztecWanker]

Come back when you get an education and a clue Junior. You really ARE stuck in a tunnel vision of reality.

Poet

Great, we'll leave it at that then.