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  • #41
    Originally posted by clay123 View Post
    What you forgot to mention was, Pryor was not doing drugs in his prime, and would train like a animal. Even when Benitez was in his prime he would hardley train.

    I'am talking about prime, you skidmark, key board warrior!
    Oh let me see. Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Cervantes when he was still good. How many of those did Pryor fight? Oh, that's right: None! The closest he got was Cervantes when Antonio was on his way out the door and Arguello when he was doing the same. Yeah, made his name beating a past it Featherweight. How dem eyes doing btw?

    Poet

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    • #42
      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
      Oh let me see. Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Cervantes when he was still good. How many of those did Pryor fight? Oh, that's right: None! The closest he got was Cervantes when Antonio was on his way out the door and Arguello when he was doing the same. Yeah, made his name beating a past it Featherweight. How dem eyes doing btw?

      Poet
      Skidmark, you think you're just a little know it all, when the ring magazine and bert sugar done a list of the greatest fighters Pryor was higher than Benitez on both, so i'am not the only one who agree's that Pyor was better. The experts think so to!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by clay123 View Post
        Skidmark, you think you're just a little know it all, when the ring magazine and bert sugar done a list of the greatest fighters Pryor was higher than Benitez on both, so i'am not the only one who agree's that Pyor was better. The experts think so to!
        Oh yeah, Bert Sugar's word is just GOLD in these parts! Most posters here think Sugar is full of more **** than a manure farm so go on dropping HIS name and see how far you get. While I respect Ring Magazine, as it has already been pointed out by others in this thread, most of their lists get looked at with raised eyebrows.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
          Oh yeah, Bert Sugar's word is just GOLD in these parts! Most posters here think Sugar is full of more **** than a manure farm so go on dropping HIS name and see how far you get. While I respect Ring Magazine, as it has already been pointed out by others in this thread, most of their lists get looked at with raised eyebrows.

          Poet
          I think Bert knows alot more about boxing than you, well saying that i think many people know more about boxing than you!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by clay123 View Post
            I think Bert knows alot more about boxing than you, well saying that i think many people know more about boxing than you!
            But Bert Sugar has never boxed, so according to you his opinion is worthless, no?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Clegg View Post
              But Bert Sugar has never boxed, so according to you his opinion is worthless, no?
              I've heard he done a bit, and Bert is a hall of famer, and knows what he is talking about!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Southpaw16bf View Post
                You don't give Pryor enough credit as a fighter. I corrected you a couple of months back when you said he wasn't in the league of Hears.

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                Originally Posted by TheManchine
                Pryor was not on the level of Hearns and Leonard in my opinion. He's smaller too.


                Hmmmm, very interesting that you claim Pryor wasn't on level of Leonard or Hearns.

                Maybe he didn't achieve as much as they did in terms of legacy, but when they were all in their prime i think Pryor was on the level of both fighters . But what people forget is Pryor was never defeated in his prime.

                Was the number #1 lighweight contender but the was avoided so moved up to the Lw division, were he stopped hall of famer Antonio Cervantes in 4 for the WBA title, and would go on to make 8 title defecnes and in those defences stopped the great Alexis Arguello x2 and then would go on to win the IBF title and make a defence.

                In my mind he was also avoided my Ray Lenoard, people even say Ray moved up a weight class to avoided Pryor in the amature's. And also he would never accept the challage of Pryor.

                It just such a shame that drugs got hold of Aaron Pryor, because i belive The Hawk could of been up there with the likes of Leanord, Armsrotng, Greb, Robinson etc if drugs had not got hold of him.

                He also beat Thomas Hearns in the Golden Glove final(Amature), and i think he could of beat Tommy in his prime in the pro ranks.

                Your avater shows a Ring Magzine cover, the same Ring Magzine that done a list The 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years in 2003 - in which they ranked Aaron Pryor number #35 and Thomas Hearns number #67. 32 Places, so Ring also think Pryor had a better legacy.

                So to say Pryor was not on the level of Hearns and Leonard in his prime is a pretty silly comment.
                i think that ranking for hearns is bizzare

                he should be way higher than that

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by clay123 View Post
                  I think Bert knows alot more about boxing than you, well saying that i think many people know more about boxing than you!
                  Bert Sugar refused to recognize Ali's greatness until the early 90s. While he may know more factoids about boxing than I do his judgment is a minimum questionable and at worse outragiously moronic.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                    Bert Sugar refused to recognize Ali's greatness until the early 90s. While he may know more factoids about boxing than I do his judgment is a minimum questionable and at worse outragiously moronic.

                    Poet
                    Who are you to call anyone, skidmark. You and your little education, your just a 40 year old who done nothing with his life, and has to talk about other boxers, because he can't talk about himslef.

                    And call legends, because you could never will be one.

                    TYPICAL KEYBOARD WARRIOR!
                    Last edited by clay123; 02-20-2009, 01:07 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by clay123 View Post
                      Who are you to call anyone, skidmark. You and your little education, your just a 40 year old who done nothing with his life, and has to talk about other boxers, because he can't talk about himslef.

                      And call legends, because you could never will be one.

                      TYPICAL KEYBOARD WARRIOR!
                      And who are YOU? A snot-nosed punk kid who thinks he's going to be a fighter? Who have neither the education OR life-experience to say anything to anyone.

                      People talk about fighters all the time. It's their right as the consumer. Consumer's are the boss. That means boxing fans (the consumer) are the boss and fighters are the employees. The moment boxing fans are no longer interested in boxing is the moment fighters NO LONGER HAVE A JOB and either go on unemployment or back to shoveling **** in Louisiana. This is the same for ALL athletes: When people stop caring enough to watch them their livelyhood is at an end. Period, end of story.

                      Poet

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