PRIME Ali Beats PRIME Tyson Easy?

[KostyaTszyu44]

You need to watch more of old Tyson fights before you make such a foolish post.

i have watched many early tyson fights as well as later ones

all those guys before buster were afraid, you could tell....they were in there with a young lion who wanted to rip their heads off and they wanted none of it...busters mother had died a few weeks before the tyson fight and he trained like a mother****er and wanted that win so badly....he wasnt afraid of tyson and he stuck to his guns and thats why he won

[KostyaTszyu44]

you could say the same about Foreman to, a lot of his power was based on his opponents fear.

very true, a young foreman had a bully mentality too.....i remember someone saying how a famous trainer told ali that foreman had the mentality of a bully, and if ali stood up to him early he would destroy him mentally...


but what makes foreman great is that after being humbled by ali he came back at a later age and showed more maturity and fought some more great competition and even beat some to regain a portion of the title....

after tysons humbling he went on to abuse his wife, **** a woman, bite a mans ear off and threaten to eat anothers children......and gain no really significant wins in the process


thats what makes george great and tyson good

[them_apples]

very true, a young foreman had a bully mentality too.....i remember someone saying how a famous trainer told ali that foreman had the mentality of a bully, and if ali stood up to him early he would destroy him mentally...


but what makes foreman great is that after being humbled by ali he came back at a later age and showed more maturity and fought some more great competition and even beat some to regain a portion of the title....

after tysons humbling he went on to abuse his wife, **** a woman, bite a mans ear off and threaten to eat anothers children......and gain no really significant wins in the process


thats what makes george great and tyson good

you can't base what a fighter does outside the ring and apply it to his boxing career. This isn't a reality show where they follow boxers around and determine their overall greatness.

they are both great in my eyes, Foreman higher on the list, but both great.

It's to bad that people who see what happened to a guy like Tyson and respond with hate. Reporters to this day treat him like trash to get a reaction.

He's not the brightest guy around but he's got feelings.

[StarshipTrooper]

What does that have to do with my post? The point is that Cus felt he had a blueprint to defeat Ali, he just needed the right fighter to lay out his plan. I was mentioning Cus in the context of better helping him prepare for Ali because he knew Ali very well and as one of the greatest teachers/boxing minds in the history of sport would have had Tyson taking Ali at his absolute best. I don't understand how that turns into comparisons with Liston, Ali, and Joe Louis. Furthermore, I think its ridiculous to say that trainers won't make a difference, if that were the case we wouldn't see trainers being hired and fired all the time.

Cus thought the Mob, the Martians, the Russians, and half the populations of Venus was out to get him but that doesn't make it so. If Cus thought he had a blueprint for beating Ali than he was more delusional than he normally was.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

prime tyson wos a ****ign baest he wud murder ali he had sik hand sped and incredable powa greatset hevywait evaer

Your ******ed. Go die.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

i agree...... but i see tyson murdering fighters like iston and frazier.... foreman as well...... just imagine ali tryin to use the rope-a-dope on tyson....... can u spell ko?

Tyson is on the bad end of a matchup clash when it comes to Foreman and probably Liston too. Ali played rope-a-dope when he was past it and no longer had the legs to move for 15 rounds. To make an analogy, could you imagine past it Tyson trying to beat a prime Ali with no head movement and throwing one punch at a time?

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

We might also ask how all those other fighters ended up afraid of Tyson in the first place, it sure wasn't his voice.

His voice got him ass-****d in prison

Poet