POLL: One heavyweight who would rule them all in any era

[NakiFan]

Ali would get badly bashed by Vitali Or Lewis.

[StarshipTrooper]

Ali would get badly bashed by Vitali Or Lewis.

You're ******ed. Back on the short bus with you.

Poet

[F l i c k e r]

Tyson in the 80s. Impetuous style, impregnable defense, and ferocious attacks. but seriously, he was too damn fast and too damn powerful to be stopped. Ali was great but honestly, the speed and power of Tyson would have eventually caught him in the later rounds. Only if he would have never met Don King and fired Kevin Rooney...

[StarshipTrooper]

Tyson in the 80s. Impetuous style, impregnable defense, and ferocious attacks. but seriously, he was too damn fast and too damn powerful to be stopped. Ali was great but honestly, the speed and power of Tyson would have eventually caught him in the later rounds. Only if he would have never met Don King and fired Kevin Rooney...

You're an even bigger ****** than the previous idiot.

Poet

[F l i c k e r]

how am I a ******? Because I was joking with the first sentence? or was it because I was voicing my opinion? Its my opinion, therefore im not wrong.

All I hear from the people who say Ali is his dancing ability. Yeah that was great back then because no heavyweight did it. In the later era you see that and trainers have ways to combat that. To combine speed and power(tyson) not just speed(ali) is a winner in my book.

[StarshipTrooper]

how am I a ******? Because I was joking with the first sentence? or was it because I was voicing my opinion? Its my opinion, therefore im not wrong.

Opinions are like *******s: The wrong people have them and they're all full of ****. ****** opinions will get you ridiculed.

All I hear from the people who say Ali is his dancing ability.

Why don't you try WATCHING him fight hmmm?

Yeah that was great back then because no heavyweight did it. In the later era you see that and trainers have ways to combat that.

Oh yeah, 1960s were the dark ages. Sorry dude, there hasn't been any revolutionary breakthrough in boxing over the past 40 years. They use the same stratagies now that they did back then.

To combine speed and power(tyson) not just speed(ali) is a winner in my book.

Buster Douglas anyone? Rewatch that one. Or maybe watch Tyson struggle against Frank Bruno. Or prehaps watch him be utterly unable to figure out James Tillis: A fighter no where near as fast and skillfull as Ali.

PS. You're overrating power as most casual fans (ie people who really know nothing about boxing) do. It's probably the LEAST important of the major factors that go into making a fighter.

Poet

[American_Ninja]

ALI.......end of story.

[F l i c k e r]

Opinions are like *******s: The wrong people have them and they're all full of ****. ****** opinions will get you ridiculed.



Why don't you try WATCHING him fight hmmm?




Oh yeah, 1960s were the dark ages. Sorry dude, there hasn't been any revolutionary breakthrough in boxing over the past 40 years. They use the same stratagies now that they did back then.



Buster Douglas anyone? Rewatch that one. Or maybe watch Tyson struggle against Frank Bruno. Or prehaps watch him be utterly unable to figure out James Tillis: A fighter no where near as fast and skillfull as Ali.

PS. You're overrating power as most casual fans (ie people who really know nothing about boxing) do. It's probably the LEAST important of the major factors that go into making a fighter.

Poet

First of all I have watched him fight and I dont see anything special. I see a big heavyweight bounce around the ring with his arms down throwing stiff jabs at idiots who just try to charge in. Then when they get tired he finishes them. Oh yeah, I also seen Ali gas before, so its really nothing special at all. He also doesn't fair too well when being hit hard.

All that show boating tactics like when he sits in the corner and lets the opponent swing at him. That **** would get him knocked out if he used it against Tyson. So how about quit living back then and see the now. Or at least the not to distant past.

Oh yeah, and I dont overrate power at all. I tell it like I see it. Tyson's prime wasn't as long as everyone elses thats all. Everyone is different. After firing his regular trainer before the douglas fight all he did was look for KOs instead of letting them come to him. You know the say "if you seek it you will not find it". Now please dont tell me your too dumb to not know that.

Also, I dont give a **** about power boxing at all. I enjoy technical fighting more so than a slug fest. I like watching a brawl but I enjoy and respect tactitions more. Which is why I liked watching Floyd more than Cotto. And didn't like Pacquiao until he grew half a brain(now he needs a defense). Which is why I dont have a favorite boxer who is active and which is why I like Sugar Ray Leonard so damn much.

[StarshipTrooper]

Well! This post proves my point about you being ******ed.

First of all I have watched him fight and I dont see anything special.

Because you're ****** and know nothing about boxing?

I see a big heavyweight bounce around the ring with his arms down throwing stiff jabs at idiots who just try to charge in. Then when they get tired he finishes them.

Proof you've never really watched Ali fight.

Oh yeah, I also seen Ali gas before, so its really nothing special at all.

You saw the past-prime 1970s version gas.

He also doesn't fair too well when being hit hard.

Try convincing Sonny Liston, George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers of that.

All that show boating tactics like when he sits in the corner and lets the opponent swing at him. That **** would get him knocked out if he used it against Tyson.

More like he'd make Tyson look like a bigger dope than he's already proved himself to be.

So how about quit living back then and see the now. Or at least the not to distant past.

How about looking at the whole picture instead of your tiny insignificant little segment of it. Boxing is lot bigger than just the past 20 years. I get the feeling that you're one of these ill edcucated dopes who that everything today is automatically superior to anything past. Worshiping at the alter of the modern I call it. Sorry, boxing didn't start when you discovered the sport and fighters don't suck because they happen to pre-date YOU.

Oh yeah, and I dont overrate power at all. I tell it like I see it. Tyson's prime wasn't as long as everyone elses thats all. Everyone is different. After firing his regular trainer before the douglas fight all he did was look for KOs instead of letting them come to him. You know the say "if you seek it you will not find it". Now please dont tell me your too dumb to not know that.

Same tired and discredited excuses Tyson's brainwashed fan-bois always make for him.

Also, I dont give a **** about power boxing at all. I enjoy technical fighting more so than a slug fest. I like watching a brawl but I enjoy and respect tactitions more. Which is why I liked watching Floyd more than Cotto. And didn't like Pacquiao until he grew half a brain(now he needs a defense). Which is why I dont have a favorite boxer who is active and which is why I like Sugar Ray Leonard so damn much.

Then you're contradicting your previous statements where all you could do was gush that he was fast and hit hard.

Poet

[F l i c k e r]

Well! This post proves my point about you being ******ed.



Because you're ****** and know nothing about boxing?



Proof you've never really watched Ali fight.



You saw the past-prime 1970s version gas.




Try convincing Sonny Liston, George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers of that.



More like he'd make Tyson look like a bigger dope than he's already proved himself to be.



How about looking at the whole picture instead of your tiny insignificant little segment of it. Boxing is lot bigger than just the past 20 years. I get the feeling that you're one of these ill edcucated dopes who that everything today is automatically superior to anything past. Worshiping at the alter of the modern I call it. Sorry, boxing didn't start when you discovered the sport and fighters don't suck because they happen to pre-date YOU.



Same tired and discredited excuses Tyson's brainwashed fan-bois always make for him.



Then you're contradicting your previous statements where all you could do was gush that he was fast and hit hard.

Poet

Okay? I dont think I can make a logical argument with you. You just dont see past your nose.

Tyson doesn't just charge in, he closes distance and weaves at the same time. The Tyson im talking about, im not talking about the one who believes he can put anyone away with one punch.(two different mentalities)

The guys you mention foreman etc. Just charge in. Thats a big difference, getting hit trying to fight your range and not getting hit trying to fight your range. Do you see that? Because thats basic infighting, or are you still living in the 60s?

Also, I never said anything about Ali being trash(in your words "suck"). I think he is great for his time because heavyweights then didn't know how to fight dancers. Now-a-days it wont be surprising to see someone move and prance about the ring at higher weight class in part to Ali revolutionizing the sport.

Contradicting my statements? Im not doing that at all. Im just not the type of person who will totally disregard one thing because I like something opposite. Just because I like technical boxing doesn't mean im gonna go with it no matter what.

I think thats your problem right there. You talk about me brain washed, look in the mirror. You love Ali so damn much you cant even fathom him losing to anyone now-a-days. ****ing ******.