POLL: One heavyweight who would rule them all in any era

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  • KostyaTszyu44
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    #31
    Ali or Holyfield

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    • KostyaTszyu44
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      #32
      Originally posted by Ernie M
      Holmes did have very good boxing skills, and probably the best jab of all time. But it's hard to know his place in history since he fought in an era of bad heavyweights(though he can't be blamed for that). And his chin was suspect. But I do place him above Klitsko,Lewis and Holyfield. Ali #1, Foreman at 2, only because everyone was scared he was going to kill them when they fought him. If not for Ali showing Young how to beat Foreman, Holmes would've fought him for the title instead of Norton. And as an ex sparring partner of Foreman's, he already feared him. Definately top ten for Holmes though.
      dude, have you seen holmes-shavers? Seen the big right that sounded like a gunshot? And Holmes got up from that.....And took lots of other shots from ernie

      in fact holmes' chin was excellent, i dont know what you base him having a suspect chin on

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      • Burning Desire
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        #33
        Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44
        dude, have you seen holmes-shavers? Seen the big right that sounded like a gunshot? And Holmes got up from that.....And took lots of other shots from ernie

        in fact holmes' chin was excellent, i dont know what you base him having a suspect chin on
        Exactly thats a ridiculous comment he was only stopped once in 75 fights, when he was ring rusty and way past his prime against a prime Mike Tyson. And he was only dropped like 6 or 7 times in total in 75 fights.

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        • Ernie M
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          #34
          Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44
          dude, have you seen holmes-shavers? Seen the big right that sounded like a gunshot? And Holmes got up from that.....And took lots of other shots from ernie

          in fact holmes' chin was excellent, i dont know what you base him having a suspect chin on
          It's just my opinion, and I base it on the number of times I seen him hurt really bad against the opposition he faced(To no fault of his own). Now, I do think he had a lot of heart and recovery skills, but I just don't think he would make out as well with some really good finishers from different eras. That's why this is fun, it's all subjective, and we all get to have a say. Good day guys.
          Ernie

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          • Burning Desire
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ernie M
            It's just my opinion, and I base it on the number of times I seen him hurt really bad against the opposition he faced(To no fault of his own). Now, I do think he had a lot of heart and recovery skills, but I just don't think he would make out as well with some really good finishers from different eras. That's why this is fun, it's all subjective, and we all get to have a say. Good day guys.
            Ernie
            Muhammad Ali was hurt by bad opposition aswell that doesn't mean he hasn't got a great chin. Every great fighter has been hurt atleast a few times by mediocre fighters. I have seen loads of Larry Holmes fights so i know how many times he was hurt.

            Now to my knowledge in his championship fights in his prime, he was only ever badly stunned or knocked down. In 4 championship fights, once against Earnie Shavers in there 2nd fight which was a monsterous right. Once against Renaldo Snipes when he got caught off guard, he soon recovered 30 seconds later.

            Once against Tim Witherspoon in the 9th round, but he had Tim Witherspoon. Hurt later in the round and a few times against Mike Weaver, who he took too lightly but again i don't see how this suggests Larry Holems had a suspect chin.

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            • C.J.Mak
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              #36
              Seein as I had to pick one I picked Muhammad Ali,My favourite heavyweight fighter of all time.I think a PRIME Ali's natural abilty,ring intelect speed and skill would see him top the heavyweight division at any time.

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              • Ernie M
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                #37
                Originally posted by Burning Desire
                Muhammad Ali was hurt by bad opposition aswell that doesn't mean he hasn't got a great chin. Every great fighter has been hurt atleast a few times by mediocre fighters. I have seen loads of Larry Holmes fights so i know how many times he was hurt.

                Now to my knowledge in his championship fights in his prime, he was only ever badly stunned or knocked down. In 4 championship fights, once against Earnie Shavers in there 2nd fight which was a monsterous right. Once against Renaldo Snipes when he got caught off guard, he soon recovered 30 seconds later.

                Once against Tim Witherspoon in the 9th round, but he had Tim Witherspoon. Hurt later in the round and a few times against Mike Weaver, who he took too lightly but again i don't see how this suggests Larry Holems had a suspect chin.
                Well, maybe you have a point, but I just don't agree. But his career is what it is, and that was pretty damn good! I still think prime Tyson against prime Holmes ends with the same result though. Spinks, I don't think so. But is he top 5 of all time...no, I don't think so.

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                • StarshipTrooper
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by C.J.Mak
                  Seein as I had to pick one I picked Muhammad Ali,My favourite heavyweight fighter of all time.I think a PRIME Ali's natural abilty,ring intelect speed and skill would see him top the heavyweight division at any time.
                  I agree. Joe Louis is my all-time favorite but I think ultimately Ali was a bit better and edges The Bomber out for the top spot.

                  Poet

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                  • Brockton Lip
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                    #39
                    Lewis was big and skilled but I'd feel too nervous with Lewis up against the big punchers; Ali is obviously winning this one although theres a couple more that may be able to do it.

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                    • RingTech01
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                      #40
                      ali was the greatest...tyson second. foreman, louis, lewis

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