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  • #11
    Originally posted by Snopkins View Post
    Don't flatter yourself too much there gabby.I don't recall you posting much facts let alone me "being overwhelmed" by them.

    Oh, ok my bad. So you didn't avoid the thread because you couldn't come up with any logical retort? Must have been some other reason, huh? I wonder if its the same reason why you skipped out on the Joe Louis-Lena Horne conversation we were having? Or if it is the same reason you are unable to come up with and post any list of your own? Tsk, tsk.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Snopkins View Post
      I have never boxed as there was never a boxing gym in my area.The youth centre at that time ran the odd boxing,karate class every now and then but nothing more than that.

      I have followed the sport since the mid 1990's after viewing Naseem Hamed's first title fight against Steve Robinson
      Interesting.

      How long have you been a Joe Frazier hater and what started your hatred towards him?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        Oh, ok my bad. So you didn't avoid the thread because you couldn't come up with any logical retort? Must have been some other reason, huh? I wonder if its the same reason why you skipped out on the Joe Louis-Lena Horne conversation we were having? Or if it is the same reason you are unable to come up with and post any list of your own? Tsk, tsk.


        I already had done,but you did a very good job in dumbing down that thread.There's only so many times that I can explain how frazier and his suspect chin avoided virtually every puncher of his generation to take on less risky challengers.You argue that he fought Ali and how he stepped in the ring with foreman for a rematch and yet you refuse to acknowledge that there was much to gain and not much to lose.



        What Joe Louis-Lena Horne conversation? The conversation in which you attempted to downplay Louis's assault of the woman?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by sOuThPaW08 View Post
          Interesting.

          How long have you been a Joe Frazier hater and what started your hatred towards him?


          Whenever boxing fans began overrating his place in history.frazier played second fiddle to the greatest heavyweights of his era and yet some fans choose to ignore this.


          The fact that some view frazier as this poor,downtrodden,neglected man is cringeworthy to say the least.


          frazier has even managed to convince a few suckers that the Rocky series are entirely based on his personal and professional career.




          This is beyond pathetic


          http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=87118208282

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Snopkins View Post
            Whenever boxing fans began overrating his place in history.frazier played second fiddle to the greatest heavyweights of his era and yet some fans choose to ignore this.


            The fact that some view frazier as this poor,downtrodden,neglected man is cringeworthy to say the least.

            frazier has even managed to convince a few suckers that the Rocky series are entirely based on his personal and professional career.




            This is beyond pathetic


            http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=87118208282
            Explain? So Frazier isn't pour or neglected?

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            • #16
              Poor as in hapless.


              He's definately not neglected,We're speaking about a man that made millions and pissed it all away,probably due to his own drinking problems and the amount of run-in's with the law he had.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Snopkins View Post
                I already had done,but you did a very good job in dumbing down that thread.There's only so many times that I can explain how frazier and his suspect chin avoided virtually every puncher of his generation to take on less risky challengers.You argue that he fought Ali and how he stepped in the ring with foreman for a rematch and yet you refuse to acknowledge that there was much to gain and not much to lose.
                I was dumbing down the thread huh? Than you should have no problem explaining the factual time line I laid out and WHY Frazier and Lyle never fought. I'll be waiting.

                What Joe Louis-Lena Horne conversation? The conversation in which you attempted to downplay Louis's assault of the woman?

                By not calling it an attempted murder Im down playing? Lmao!! Answer the question, if this domestic squabble was as bad as you'd like us to believe, why did the aunt never call an ambulance or Horne seek medical attention? Surely if Louis was trying to kill here there would have been some severe injuries, no?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Snopkins View Post
                  Poor as in hapless.


                  He's definately not neglected,We're speaking about a man that made millions and pissed it all away,probably due to his own drinking problems and the amount of run-in's with the law he had.
                  I do know that Frazier has had alot of problems with his own faimly and has had to sell his gym.

                  What have you got against Marvin Hagler or A.Pryor? 2 fighters that you also seem to have something against?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    I was dumbing down the thread huh? Than you should have no problem explaining the factual time line I laid out and WHY Frazier and Lyle never fought. I'll be waiting.


                    The time line in which frazier lost his title and yet fellow contender Ron Lyle was unworthy of fighting him while a shot Jimmy Ellis and Joe bugner were?





                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    By not calling it an attempted murder Im down playing? Lmao!! Answer the question, if this domestic squabble was as bad as you'd like us to believe, why did the aunt never call an ambulance or Horne seek medical attention? Surely if Louis was trying to kill here there would have been some severe injuries, no?


                    It was Louis who claimed that "the only thing that saved Lena's life was an aunt in the next room who threatened to call the police".



                    Stop putting words in my mouth,I never claimed Louis tried to kill her......although his comments suggest that he was rather close to doing so.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Snopkins View Post
                      The time line in which frazier lost his title and yet fellow contender Ron Lyle was unworthy of fighting him while a shot Jimmy Ellis and Joe bugner were?
                      Nobody said Lyle was unworthy. But the FACT is he was fighting tomato cans at that particular time and the time line simply doesn't fit. If you think it does be my guest and reconfigure it. And as I said, Bugner was a top 10 fighter. It also seems you have no problem with Lyle fighting rthat same "shot" Ellis just a year earlier, but want to hold it against Joe even though Jimmy's style was more suitable for getting ready for the Ali rematch.

                      It was Louis who claimed that "the only thing that saved Lena's life was an aunt in the next room who threatened to call the police".

                      Stop putting words in my mouth,I never claimed Louis tried to kill her......although his comments suggest that he was rather close to doing so.

                      You're still ducking my questions and you're still lying. You most certainly called Louis an attempted murderer and everyone on this board knows it.

                      Do you ever get tired of me kicking your ass on these boards?

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