what in your estimation prevents duran from being the greatest fighter whoever lived?

[wpink1]

Awwwwww, now you're getting personal. By your standard NO fighter can be criticized because they all risk their lives everytime they step in the ring. And yet YOU did a pretty good job ripping Duran earlier in the thread which was the entire point of the argument in the first place. Who actually brought Mayweather up? You did! You held him up as a paragon of excellence to compare Duran's purported deficienies against. Yet now he's suddenly off-limits to criticism. This is like a game of three-card-monty where you change the standards, even change the issue, each time you're answered.

As to my personal toughness, that isn't really the issue now is it? At least it wasn't untill you once again CHANGED the issue. Even that isn't really pertinent because you speak about which you know nothing. You don't know a thing about me! You don't know what I do for a living or my life history so you have no clue about how tough I am. You are relying on assumptions that are practically always wrong. Now I have yet to make a single personal attack on you but YOU have been getting progressively more personal over the last few posts culminating in this last post where you don't even try to veil the ad-hominum slams. Even so I'm not going to sink to your level they way I might have done with a more assinine poster such as randy johnson. I could easily question your intelligence in the same many you question my courage but I'll refrain from doing so.

It is one thing to disagree with someone, it's quite another move away from the source of the disagreement and make the person you're disagreeing the issue. I have NOT done so. YOU have. I believe you need to rethink how you approach the issues discussed and, as wmute would say, leave the personal insinuations for the morons over at the NSB thread.

Poet

I reread my post and I can see where your coming from as far as personal, I agree and I apologize. I do believe that no one on here can call a boxer the level of a Duran, Mayweather weak knicknames though. I stand by that.

As for Duran, I never calle3d him out of his name. He is a great figher and all time great, I have always said that, He would whip my ass and I acknowledge that. I merely am pointing out that IMO he is not top 5-10 of all time. I clealry point out my reasons why and compare his record and accomplishments with those of others.

[StarshipTrooper]

I reread my post and I can see where your coming from as far as personal, I agree and I apologize. I do believe that no one on here can call a boxer the level of a Duran, Mayweather weak knicknames though. I stand by that.

As for Duran, I never calle3d him out of his name. He is a great figher and all time great, I have always said that, He would whip my ass and I acknowledge that. I merely am pointing out that IMO he is not top 5-10 of all time. I clealry point out my reasons why and compare his record and accomplishments with those of others.

Fair enough! God only knows enough of that goes on on this forum. The truth is, there aren't many fighters I can say I actually dislike personally. Mayweather just happens to be one of them and Hector Camacho is another. While I'm not a big fan of Chavez, I can't really say I have any major dislike for him either and I thoroughly enjoyed watching him beat Camacho up. While Castillo didn't do likewise to Mayweather a lot of people think he won one of those fights.

Poet

[C.Y.]

In every fight I've seen him in he looked like a Hector Camacho clone. Maybe he didn't against that 22-19 guy but then I haven't seen that one so I don't know.

PS. I detest Hector Camacho too.

Poet

not a big hector fan myself even though we share the same birthday.. but he was a good fighter.. as far as real exciting floyd may fights check out:

floyd vs gatti
floyd vs corley
floyd vs chavez
floyd vs hernandez
floyd vs augustus
floyd vs ndou
flyod vs hatton
floyd vs corrales

theres a few others.. i can find some links for u if u havent seen them.. if u have seen those fights, you honestly cant tell me is boring and runs all the time..


late

[StarshipTrooper]

not a big hector fan myself even though we share the same birthday.. but he was a good fighter.. as far as real exciting floyd may fights check out:

floyd vs gatti
floyd vs corley
floyd vs chavez
floyd vs hernandez
floyd vs augustus
floyd vs ndou
flyod vs hatton
floyd vs corrales

theres a few others.. i can find some links for u if u havent seen them.. if u have seen those fights, you honestly cant tell me is boring and runs all the time..


late

Okay, I'll take you up on that. I'm certainly willing to look at evidence I may not have seen yet. You certainly don't have to twist my arm to get me to watch a fight!

Poet

[KostyaTszyu44]

not a big hector fan myself even though we share the same birthday.. but he was a good fighter.. as far as real exciting floyd may fights check out:

floyd vs gatti
floyd vs corley
floyd vs chavez
floyd vs hernandez
floyd vs augustus
floyd vs ndou
flyod vs hatton
floyd vs corrales

theres a few others.. i can find some links for u if u havent seen them.. if u have seen those fights, you honestly cant tell me is boring and runs all the time..


late

yeah, those were all pretty decent fights

i really enjoyed hatton-mayweather....

i need to see chico v mayweather

was that a competitive fight until the stoppage or did floyd just put on a clinic the whole time?

[Clegg]

yeah, those were all pretty decent fights

i really enjoyed hatton-mayweather....

i need to see chico v mayweather

was that a competitive fight until the stoppage or did floyd just put on a clinic the whole time?

I'm pretty sure he won every round.

A very good performance, possibly the best of his career.

[C.Y.]

yeah, those were all pretty decent fights

i really enjoyed hatton-mayweather....

i need to see chico v mayweather

was that a competitive fight until the stoppage or did floyd just put on a clinic the whole time?

it was a one sided brilliant boxing exhibition from floyd.. heres a link

part 1
http://www.**********.com/?d=IM823ZVU

part2
http://www.**********.com/?d=GP6FVWZZ

[JAB5239]

Okay, I'll take you up on that. I'm certainly willing to look at evidence I may not have seen yet. You certainly don't have to twist my arm to get me to watch a fight!

Poet

There is no doubt in my mind Floyd was a brilliant fighter. With that said, he has never been exciting to me, especially given the proclimations he has made before fights. As a fan, the Baldomir fight sealed the deal for me not caring to watch him. He could have whooped him worse than Gatti. Was it smart? Sure. Was it fun to watch? Not in my world.

[Thread Stealer]

Mayweather is not consistently a dull fighter. Boring fights are the exception for him rather than the norm IMO. In this decade, the ones I thought were dull were the Vargas, second half of the Carlos Hernandez bout, second Castillo fight and Baldomir fight. DLH and Sosa fights were so-so.

The rest were okay to good.

[Massage Queen]

Many people will say that if for no other reason it was because he said "no mas"

I'm sure other people have mentioned that here.
I haven't gone through all the comments.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it. I just know that's what a lot of professional boxers (and trainers) have said when I asked them how they feel about it.