Marciano was overrated and not an ATG.

[Smokin'J]

'Cause the era he fought in was weak, why blame the boxer?
See, you gotta see it in the perspective as IF you were in that time WHEN he was fighting instead of looking back to the past, its like comparing the race cars of then comparing it to the ones now. IMO.

[CletusVanDamme]

i think the complete opposite!!!

Smartest man in the whole damn thread.

[CletusVanDamme]

Sonny Liston wasn't even on the Boxing Radar at the time. If you would have said he would have avoided a Nino Valdes I would respect your opinion.

[JAB5239]

He is too old and fat for even todyas bums. The former soviets would kill him like Drago did to Apollo Creed. And Apollo Creed was a better boxer than old fat Arnold Cream.

You're an idiot. When you bring a little more to the table than fictional fighters and whole hearted ASSumptions, come find me and we'll talk. Until then, your opinion isn't worth the toilet paper I wipe my ass with.

[Thunder Lips]

How can anyone call this is slow?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UpzS6kfSNU



The "faster" superior athletes of today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR7gnUVI94

[Alexis Vastine]

Marciano is such a big joke that he has to be compared to fictional characters. He is a myth!

I can see you're trying ahrd to convince yoursleves with bull**** examples but Walcott was not even half as fast as any of the top ten heavies. Walcott may be better than some today, but that doesn't say much! In 70's he would be nothing more than a journeyman. Marciano often gets placed in top 5 by white journo's but he doesn't belong there. That's why he is overrated.

[Alexis Vastine]

'Cause the era he fought in was weak, why blame the boxer?
See, you gotta see it in the perspective as IF you were in that time WHEN he was fighting instead of looking back to the past, its like comparing the race cars of then comparing it to the ones now. IMO.

nobody is blaming him for ****. i just don't think he is good as people say he is and think he is well overrated. That's all. Forget the perspective of in his time, comparing him to the greats he doesn't compare. the problem is many writers think he does even though he was ****.

[TheGreatA]

Marciano is such a big joke that he has to be compared to fictional characters. He is a myth!

I can see you're trying ahrd to convince yoursleves with bull**** examples but Walcott was not even half as fast as any of the top ten heavies. Walcott may be better than some today, but that doesn't say much! In 70's he would be nothing more than a journeyman. Marciano often gets placed in top 5 by white journo's but he doesn't belong there. That's why he is overrated.

You don't think Joe Louis was a top ten heavyweight? Because Walcott was faster than Louis was.

Not better but faster.

Maybe not by the time he fought Marciano though. He didn't quite have the legs to move 15 rounds by then like he did against Louis and Marciano's body punches were obviously taking their toll which is why he had to fight off the ropes so much.

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[Smokin'J]

nobody is blaming him for ****. i just don't think he is good as people say he is and think he is well overrated. That's all. Forget the perspective of in his time, comparing him to the greats he doesn't compare. the problem is many writers think he does even though he was ****.

Means as in if he was that great with the training back then, how would he have been if he was in this era with the advanceed kinda supreme training and tactics?

[Alexis Vastine]

probably a nobody. Sorry but I do not rate anyone who struggled to beat old slow men. The training techniques were pretty much the same in the 60's and developed a bit more in the 70's. I don't think he would have held his own in the late 60's.