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  • #11
    Originally posted by AlQaedaJada View Post
    ive fought as a teen in the 155-160 range, and i was pretty quick. now im back and i think im just as fast but i burn out faster, but i hit real hard now. i want to gain more muscle but lose some fat so i think ill stay at around 210ish.
    The best thing to do is find a good trainer, so good luck with that one. A good trainer will know best where you should be and you would know based on how you feel and perform.

    If you burn out fast, you need to cut the weight and increase the cardio/training. No stamina = sleepy time.

    And lastly, let us not forget skill is essential.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
      The best thing to do is find a good trainer, so good luck with that one. A good trainer will know best where you should be and you would know based on how you feel and perform.

      If you burn out fast, you need to cut the weight and increase the cardio/training. No stamina = sleepy time.

      And lastly, let us not forget skill is essential.
      my trainer is a professor in martial arts and trained my friend who was kickboxing super heavyweight champion of newengland
      yea after running yesterday i realized how tired i got and the extra weight doesnt mean **** if you cant move it. but yea i have the resources to be good and ive studied fight theory for years
      Last edited by GhostInMachines; 12-26-2007, 11:43 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by AlQaedaJada View Post
        my trainer is a professor in martial arts and trained my friend who was kickboxing super heavyweight champion of newengland
        yea after running yesterday i realized how tired i got and the extra weight doesnt mean **** if you cant move it. but yea i have the resources to be good and ive studied fight theory for years
        It's about being effective with your body.

        What does your trainer say about the weight?

        Remember, Hopkins came in as a Light-heavyweight, but his trainer found it better for him to trim down to Middle...the rest is history. You have to find a weight, a trim weight, where your body will be great at, even have advantages if possible. Depending on your height and how thick your frame is, Light-heavyweight-Cruiserweight might be good for you but this is without me seeing you so you would obviously know better. I would try to lose the fat now but not to fast where you sacrifice valuable muscle. It would be best to see your abs unless you are James Toney who can get away with it.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
          It's about being effective with your body.

          What does your trainer say about the weight?

          Remember, Hopkins came in as a Light-heavyweight, but his trainer found it better for him to trim down to Middle...the rest is history. You have to find a weight, a trim weight, where your body will be great at, even have advantages if possible. Depending on your height and how thick your frame is, Light-heavyweight-Cruiserweight might be good for you but this is without me seeing you so you would obviously know better. I would try to lose the fat now but not to fast where you sacrifice valuable muscle. It would be best to see your abs unless you are James Toney who can get away with it.
          well i have alot better chance of suceeding in kickboxing then boxing. since ive done karate for a long time it helps. what my trainer likes is that i can just throw up roundhouses really fast and most of his black belts still get wacked in the head. its mainly because my old style didnt teach me to properly pivot the hip, so you dont see me rotate my weight. ive fixed it though and its prob the best weapon i have. if he notices this slowing down he'll recommend i lose weight, but hes already pissed i get tired faster.
          your very right im alot better off being a quick middle weight, especially when i get older cause i wanna be in shape in my 30s and 40s not some powerhouse fat ass. that is just a problem waiting to happen
          Last edited by GhostInMachines; 12-27-2007, 01:17 AM.

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          • #15
            anways

            so tyson was big as a kid, was he violent and getting into lots of fights? i wasnt sure and didnt know if fame had made him real testy and on edge or if he was always like that.

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            • #16
              Tyson had 38 criminal conviction by the age of 14 (give or take a few)

              There are many ****** stories circulating about him, but one thing is for sure he was always fighting ever since the day he came out of the womb.

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              • #17
                http://www.lorigrinker.com/projects_tyson.html#
                On this link, see the first 2 pictures for a 13 year old Tyson.

                Here he is 15 years old

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                • #18
                  An Extract From a Biography By Peter Heller :

                  [IMG]http://i95.***********.com/albums/l151/Errol100/TysonWeight.jpg[/IMG]


                  He was Born in 66 so in 79 he would have been 13, the book goes on to say in 1980 at 13 1/2 Tyson Weighed 210 and Rooney didnt believe he was only of that age. There were no other fighters in the gym at that weight so he sparred with Stewart Who was 180lbs
                  Last edited by The Iron Man; 01-02-2008, 11:56 AM.

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