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  • #61
    Originally posted by gavinz1970 View Post
    Would you like me to list Tysons early tomatoe cans that were FAR FAR inferior to Ruiz?
    The first 10 fighters tua fought all had losing records! and were awful. How does that work comparing one of the bet fighters tua fought to the early fighters tyson fought!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by The Iron Man View Post
      The first 10 fighters tua fought all had losing records! and were awful. How does that work comparing one of the bet fighters tua fought to the early fighters tyson fought!
      That was in response to a statement from Apples that Ruiz was far worse than ANYONE that Tyson fought. And 99% of fighters out there pad their record, at LEAST their first 10 fights with bums. Hell Tyrone Brunson is 18-0 with 18 first round KOs but only one of them had a winning record.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
        I didn't know Tua knocked out Ruiz in 19 seconds and Moorer in 21 seconds. The dude was a monster, was never knocked out or stopped and only beaten 3 times(Ike Ibeabuchi, a monster, Lennox Lewis, a great, and Chris Byrd, a damn good boxer 6 years ago) in 53 fights, with 42 KOs. Plus he was 5'10" and between 220 and 245 at his best, strong as a bull, with a killer left hook. Prime vs Prime.
        - -Tua started magnificently, but as his purses expanded, so did his girth.

        At the time the match first proposed, Tua at his apex while Mike on meds painting by the numbers as a celebrity boxer.

        Have to favor Tua in that scenario, but had he been better managed, he'd have more title shots than just the Lewis one.

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        • #64
          It would be a shootout, and I think Tyson would win a competitive but clear UD, but I don't think he'd stop Tua by any means. Tua took flush bombs from big punchers like Ibeabuchi, Lennox, Maskaev, Rachman etc. and was never in danger of being stopped. In fact, only time I've seen him in trouble was when Rachman hit him after the bell.

          If the likes of Mitch Green, Tucker, Tillis, Ruddock etc. can go the distance with him, I don't see why Tua can't. Tua had a cast iron chin.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
            It would be a shootout, and I think Tyson would win a competitive but clear UD, but I don't think he'd stop Tua by any means. Tua took flush bombs from big punchers like Ibeabuchi, Lennox, Maskaev, Rachman etc. and was never in danger of being stopped. In fact, only time I've seen him in trouble was when Rachman hit him after the bell.

            If the likes of Mitch Green, Tucker, Tillis, Ruddock etc. can go the distance with him, I don't see why Tua can't. Tua had a cast iron chin.
            - -Agree in full.

            Who'd have thunk it?

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            • #66
              tua had an iron jaw but mike was a devastating body puncher as well

              80s mike beats him but 90s mike i think could likely lose when they get to trading and tyson was more sloppy and looking for that one punch in the 90s

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              • #67
                Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
                It would be a shootout, and I think Tyson would win a competitive but clear UD, but I don't think he'd stop Tua by any means. Tua took flush bombs from big punchers like Ibeabuchi, Lennox, Maskaev, Rachman etc. and was never in danger of being stopped. In fact, only time I've seen him in trouble was when Rachman hit him after the bell.

                If the likes of Mitch Green, Tucker, Tillis, Ruddock etc. can go the distance with him, I don't see why Tua can't. Tua had a cast iron chin.

                tua wont be stopped on headshots but even iron jaws could be stopped by body shots, look at chuvalo got both stoppages were waived off by ref after taking brutal body shots

                with mike being tuas height, he will be low enough to rip hooks to the body which most average height heavyweights arent landing on tua.

                not a guarantee but its possible

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                • #68
                  Tua was a one handed fighter with no reach, no footwork, who was, as said, incrediblely durable.

                  Tyson had power in both hands, could move, and was relentless.

                  Sure maybe there is some apogee when aligned that is the absolute best for Tua and where Mike is at his worse... Maybe Tua has a chance under such a scenerio, but is that what we are talking about? Under any realistic scenerio Tyson destroys Tua, maybe not knocking him out, but destroys him never the less... Like he did with Golota.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                    - -Tua started magnificently, but as his purses expanded, so did his girth.

                    At the time the match first proposed, Tua at his apex while Mike on meds painting by the numbers as a celebrity boxer.

                    Have to favor Tua in that scenario, but had he been better managed, he'd have more title shots than just the Lewis one.
                    Yes...Tyson on Zoloft.

                    Tyson of 2002 beats Tua of '96. Doesn't matter the timeline. Tyson was always the better fighter. And no, I didn't bother reading the original post...it doesn't matter. You're a moron no matter what. Just saying....

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                      Tua was a one handed fighter with no reach, no footwork, who was, as said, incrediblely durable.

                      Tyson had power in both hands, could move, and was relentless.

                      Sure maybe there is some apogee when aligned that is the absolute best for Tua and where Mike is at his worse... Maybe Tua has a chance under such a scenerio, but is that what we are talking about? Under any realistic scenerio Tyson destroys Tua, maybe not knocking him out, but destroys him never the less... Like he did with Golota.
                      - -Tua boxed beautifully vs raging Ike.

                      Why U comment on what U don't know?

                      Toopid?

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