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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #11
    Originally posted by newforce
    After watching his amateur fights on youtube,all I can say is he really floated like a butterfly..
    Moved pretty damn good for a BIG man, stung like a bee too.

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    • Sidnalroy
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      #12
      the cuban Odlanier SOLÍS beat savon when he was only 18 years old, he beat him twice. so that makes me wonder how good savon would of been.

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      • Konfusious
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        #13
        Savon was a great boxer, Odlanier Solis is another great boxer. Felix Savon would've been interesting to see him fighting in the United States. I wish that my fellow countrymen would be free to show their dominance in the sport of boxing. Only a matter of time before Cuba will be able to show that they cant compete and showed that their pros are just as good or even better than most boxers in the States.

        Also, yorlandis, your avatar is interesting. Haven't heard much about Guillermo Rigondeaux. Will be on the lookout for him

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        • salao
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          #14
          ur rite ...because of the cuban governmant

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          • QueensburyRules
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            #15
            Originally posted by Konfusious
            Savon was a great boxer, Odlanier Solis is another great boxer. Felix Savon would've been interesting to see him fighting in the United States. I wish that my fellow countrymen would be free to show their dominance in the sport of boxing. Only a matter of time before Cuba will be able to show that they cant compete and showed that their pros are just as good or even better than most boxers in the States.

            Also, yorlandis, your avatar is interesting. Haven't heard much about Guillermo Rigondeaux. Will be on the lookout for him
            - -Rigomortis never really got beyond clubfighter level wins.

            Savon KOing a host of ring Ranked heavies woulda made a great pro. Solis caught him as an ol'man never amounted to much.

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              #16
              Originally posted by yorlandis
              the cuban Odlanier SOLÍS beat savon when he was only 18 years old, he beat him twice. so that makes me wonder how good savon would of been.
              Savon was a giant for his day with a big time punch and skills.

              247-7 with just two stoppage losses ( Both avenged ) is a very good record. He'd be a top pro prospect. Likely one of the champions.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Konfusious
                Savon was a great boxer, Odlanier Solis is another great boxer. Felix Savon would've been interesting to see him fighting in the United States. I wish that my fellow countrymen would be free to show their dominance in the sport of boxing. Only a matter of time before Cuba will be able to show that they cant compete and showed that their pros are just as good or even better than most boxers in the States.

                Also, yorlandis, your avatar is interesting. Haven't heard much about Guillermo Rigondeaux. Will be on the lookout for him
                Great retort (the bolded). The Cubans are incredible. people don't really grasp the ease in which Cubans make the jump to the professionals. To have a respectable career as a professional boxer is an amazing feat. Someone like Gonzalez... someone long forgotten, managed to fight Bowe, much less fighters who had their run and then were a success, like Solis (one of my favorites) and King Kong. I mention these guys because the heavyweight division is the top of the heap... Often the mark of distinction for a heavyweight coming up is if they have beaten an American heavyweight.

                heres the thing: Cuba is an island with a population of roughly 12 million... Which is the population of New York City and half another new York City... Yet look at how many great fighters are born out of Cuba! Look at Cuba as an influence on Puerto Rico, and other boxing programs that have benefitted from Cuban concepts in boxing.

                Mexico has a population of 130Million or so by comparison. it just gives one some perspective on how great Cuban boxing is. Most nations of 11 million are lucky to have any great fighters professionally.

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                  #18
                  I've always wondered why Cuban heavyweights were never great at making the transition to pro. There has never been a Cuban born heavyweight champion and it may be for a reason. A lot of them come over, gain weight and lose their hunger because of the freedom they're allowed to have in The U.S vs Cuba. I've read that the Cuban boxing school is compared to the military in several aspects. Odlanier Solís for example, gained over 50 pounds after he turned pro.

                  As for Savón, I'm not sure but would've loved to see it. He was a great amateur but the pros are way different. No point system, no head gear and much better comp. Lets be honest, he'd be going up against season vets/pro champions and not teens before they turned pro. Not to take anything from his legendary career, he's one of the great amateurs of all time.

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by billeau2
                    Great retort (the bolded). The Cubans are incredible. people don't really grasp the ease in which Cubans make the jump to the professionals. To have a respectable career as a professional boxer is an amazing feat. Someone like Gonzalez... someone long forgotten, managed to fight Bowe, much less fighters who had their run and then were a success, like Solis (one of my favorites) and King Kong. I mention these guys because the heavyweight division is the top of the heap... Often the mark of distinction for a heavyweight coming up is if they have beaten an American heavyweight.

                    heres the thing: Cuba is an island with a population of roughly 12 million... Which is the population of New York City and half another new York City... Yet look at how many great fighters are born out of Cuba! Look at Cuba as an influence on Puerto Rico, and other boxing programs that have benefitted from Cuban concepts in boxing.

                    Mexico has a population of 130Million or so by comparison. it just gives one some perspective on how great Cuban boxing is. Most nations of 11 million are lucky to have any great fighters professionally.
                    - -Step away from the crack, yes U can!

                    No modern Cuban greats exist in the pro ranks. Kid Gavilan prob the greatest Cubano pro ain't been around for umpteen decades now.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                      - -Step away from the crack, yes U can!

                      No modern Cuban greats exist in the pro ranks. Kid Gavilan prob the greatest Cubano pro ain't been around for umpteen decades now.
                      Do you read posts? I know I have your V a g burning with indignent rage but READ THE POST you idiot! great fighters are a rarified group. I never said anything about great fighters, I said fighters who adapt and have a good professional career. I even gave an example, using Gonzalez, who was far from outstanding but managed to get a fight with Bowe.

                      People like you who have not attained anything might find it hard to think it through, but merely being a professional fighter in a key division is a major accomplishment.

                      Now stop following me around and posting nonsense! Your embarrassing yourself Ginsberg.

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