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Well, no disrespect to anyone, but one would think thats all they watch because its all alot of posters talk about : Mike Tyson. Gets kinda old.
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I came out you like that because of the way you talk and act on this forum. You need to take a serious look back at my posts if you think I put Tyson up there with GOD. LOL And Tyson would have knocked them both out.
When your ready to act like a "cool guy" you'll be treated as such.
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Lack of boxing knowledge? LOL
I understand, he was exciting to watch and his later years he was like a traveling freak show...wonder what in the hell he was going to do next. I just don't see the allure of 24/7 Mike Tyson banter. There are many other fighters who are just as interesting if they'll only take the time to see for themselves.Comment
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I've been doing some research, this is purely a statistical deal, but I found this site through hurricane72 and the Top 10 heavyweights thread.
Anyways, this site has all kinds of stats. But one that really intrigued me was the number of ranked opponents/total registered wins.
These stats are only thru 2002, but I think they prove a point.
I'll highlight the stat I refer to.
According to this out 33 victories during his first title run Foreman beat 7 opponents ranked in the top 10. During his second title run, out of 22 victories, he beat 2 in the top 10.
GEORGE FOREMAN 1970-1977 7/33 .21 #1 (1st time champion)
GEORGE FOREMAN 1991-1994 2/22 .09 #3 (2nd time champion)
So, out of 55 wins, only 9 have come against ranked opposition.
Ok lets look at 2 fighters that Foreman is almost always ranked ahead of -
Lennox Lewis, out 37 victories, 16 have come against top 10 opposition.
LENNOX LEWIS 1991-2003 16/37 .43 #1
Mike Tyson, out of 41 victories, 17 have come against top 10 opposition.
MIKE TYSON -1986-2002 17/41 .41 #1
Evander Holyfieldm, out of 34 victories, 16 have come against top 10 opposition.
EVANDER HOLYFIELD-1988-2002 16/34 .47 #1
I think this is one of the clearest indications that Foreman has indeed been overrated in regards to placing him in a top 10 all-time list because clearly going by statistics there are three who deserve placement over him.
Like I said, this is a purely statistical deal but it does paint a pretty revealing picture.Comment
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I don't understand how people are saying anyone who roots for Tyson has a lack of boxing knowledge, if anything watching millions of older fighters would just encourage them into rooting for Tyson even more.
Like honestly, what would bring you to think Liston would stand a chance vs Tyson? Tyson is faster, he knocks guys out bigger than him with both hands, he can switch to a south paw on the fly and even his chin is better, and last but not least he had one of the most extreme forms of defense ever witnessed in the boxing scene.
Why would you think Liston hit harder? Tyson hits guys and they go flying across the ring! what evidence is there that proves Liston is a harder hitter?
Tyson dropped Spinks with a body shot (first knock down) He has made guys cry in the ring.
Tyson has a lot of fans because he showed a great level of skill in the ring, he beat the crap out of guys way bigger than him and even lifted them off the ground.
I'm NOT a Biased Tyson fan, I only root for him when I see fit, and when your going to compare guys like Marciano or Liston to Tyson it's almost comical, I wonder what planet your living on.
I'm not trying to be a **** but it makes some of you guys that root for the Old timer's look sort of ****** and naive.
Do I think Tyson was unbeatable? With Rooney in his corner, he's probably the closest fighter to date that could have achieved that status. Every other heavyweight champion has had a major flaw, Tyson's only flaw would be his mind.
In the coming years a better fighter will probably come along, and the wars will continue. But please no more, "this old slow guy that we adore would fix so and so's wagon just because I grew up watching him".Comment
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