George Foreman : Overrated?

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  • hemichromis
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    #41
    Originally posted by RossCA
    Stylistically Tyson owns Foreman for many reasons. 1) Unlike Foreman, Tyson had great head movement. Foremans punches were not short, so in other words they were very easy to see. Tyson was the best at slipping punches while moving forward. 2) Foreman had no head movement. When the bombs were flying, his only defense was to lock his arms up so you couldn't punch around them. But, Tyson threw very fast and powerful combinations from every different angle. If you don't move back, grab, or move your head, your going down. 3) Tyson had the technical skill to counter punches, Foreman didn't (or at least not on the same level). 4) Tyson threw much shorter and faster punches, Foreman didn't have the reflexes or defense to get away from them. Guys like Ali, Holmes, Lewis, and Johnson would have been tough for Tyson to beat because of their defense alone. Foreman was just made to order plain and simple. But unlike you, I give the other opponent a punchers chance. LOL


    It's just human to be afraid. Every man has his weaknesses, fears, and insecurities. Foreman or any other fighter was not this fearless, flawless, knockout machine you might see him as.


    It's that fear a fighter needs to be at his best. It ensures your going to really watch for each punch and hit when the opportunity comes. A fighter with no fear is at a disadvantage. Foreman even said he was scared to death of Joe Frazier, many times.
    yes tyson has very nice short punches. thje problem becomes getting close enough to land! foreman had alot of flaws but he was very good and keeping fighters away from him .

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    • Hawkins
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      #42
      How in the world does every thread end up pitting someone against Tyson???? Tyson isn't the measuring stick for greatness so what gives?

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      • sleazyfellow
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        #43
        Originally posted by them_apples
        Thanks captain ******,

        foreman wanted to fight Tyson? Thats BS

        Tyson was not afraid of anyone? where the hell is your head at? Have you watched any Tyson documentaries at all? Tyson for the first half of his career was a very respectful boxer and actually was scared of entering the ring, its only later on in his career that he threw up the ****y wall of "fearless".

        I said Foreman's Jaw got harder, you worded it like I said it's some natural occurance that your jaw gets harder. Shut the hell up and only take things out of context.
        how long have you been a fight fan? when foreman was on the comeback trail he stated he wanted tyson....magazine articles and all. Of course i seen tysons bios, that seems to be all you see and jerk off too.

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          #44
          Originally posted by hemichromis
          yes tyson has very nice short punches. thje problem becomes getting close enough to land! foreman had alot of flaws but he was very good and keeping fighters away from him .
          Very true about all that. Foreman pushed off Frazier to keep him outside which isn't allowed anymore. If Foreman & Tyson fought under the current rules, I'll bet Tyson would have made it in close a lot more than Frazier did. Not saying you, but a lot of us look at that Foreman Frazier fight to gage how Tyson would have done, but without the "pushing off" it would have been a very different fight.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Hawkins
            How in the world does every thread end up pitting someone against Tyson???? Tyson isn't the measuring stick for greatness so what gives?
            Ha ha ha ha ha. Because Tyson was the ultimate puncher (well, at least I think he was), so matching him against other punchers like Foreman and Marciano is a natural.

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            • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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              #46
              Originally posted by sleazyfellow
              when foreman was on the comeback trail he stated he wanted tyson....magazine articles and all.
              Yeah, I remember Foreman yelling with his hands up that he wanted Tyson during his comeback. No doubt about that.

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                #47
                Originally posted by gavinz1970
                Yeah Tyson ****** after he got rid of Rooney because he was no longer fighting BUMS. He did look good fighting tomatoe cans though. Look up Tye Fields, he has fought similar guys that Tyson, but with more impressive results. And Tye Fields is a BUM.
                Originally posted by gavinz1970
                Yup, like Mike Tyson.
                You bring a new meaning to the phrase: "You can learn a lot from a dummy". LOL

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RossCA
                  Yeah, I remember Foreman yelling with his hands up that he wanted Tyson during his comeback. No doubt about that.
                  I know Foreman always made mention of it but he was loudest after Evander KO'd him, though to be fair to Tyson after that I'm sure they wanted him to build himself back up more before throwing him in with someone as dangerous as Foreman.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hawkins
                    I know Foreman always made mention of it but he was loudest after Evander KO'd him, though to be fair to Tyson after that I'm sure they wanted him to build himself back up more before throwing him in with someone as dangerous as Foreman.
                    Yeah, especially after getting his ass knocked out. LOL I don't think Foreman yelled for Tyson because he thought he could beat him, it was for the huge pay day. But I won't argue that he didn't want to beat Tyson and be the camp again. It's just that, he wouldn't have been there without the big bucks.IMO

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by RossCA
                      Yeah, especially after getting his ass knocked out. LOL I don't think Foreman yelled for Tyson because he thought he could beat him, it was for the huge pay day. But I won't argue that he didn't want to beat Tyson and be the camp again. It's just that, he wouldn't have been there without the big bucks.IMO


                      If I'm not mistaken wasn't there serious talk of making the fight happen at one point? Can't remember for sure, but I was thinking that after he beat Mathis or Bruno there was serious consideration for a Foreman bout. Furthermore I was thinking it was scrapped because of the $$$$ not being right for one side or the other.

                      I could be wrong tho'.

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