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  • Burning Desire
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    #101
    Originally posted by metalinmybrain
    I would like to know your thoughts on who would win in a dream match between Mike Tyson and Rocky Marciano, but not exactly focusing on their primes but rather the Tyson that destroyed Michael Spinks 90 seconds into the first round vs the Rocky Marciano who drilled Joe Walcott in the first round. Who would win and why?
    Tyson wins he has better defense quicker hands and hits harder it would be Cruiserweight vs Heavyweight.

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    • Burning Desire
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      #102
      Originally posted by them_apples
      Tyson did not have trouble with guys who did not fear him, that only happened later on in his career.

      Holmes and Seldon did not fear him, yet the same brutal outcome.

      another thing, although Tyson pushes the most in the first 3 rounds, he still keeps up the pressure up untill even round 12.


      Marciano is tough, smaller, doesn't hit as hard and has good stamina, if we are going with your theory of "boxers would benefit with the tech of today" then he might have a chance, a Direct comparison is probably a 1st or second round knockout, as marciano is to slow and probably couldn't hurt Tyson.

      It's been stated before that Marciano wasn't the hardest hitter of his time, only the most relentless.

      Being 186 lbs he weighed less than Tyson's heavy bag, and we all know how he tossed that thing around.
      Actually Holmes admitted for the first time in his career he was scared against Tyson and Seldon wern't scared ?? he went down on a punch that didn't even land he was so scared it looked like he was going to pass out.

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      • Burning Desire
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        #103
        Originally posted by Hawkins
        That wasn't my point. My point was you can't just say Tyson wasn't in his prime because his head wasn't in the fight. He insinuated that you couldn't use that weakness against Tyson I disagree. It points to a lack of mental toughness.
        Im not Tyson fan at all but that was nowhere near prime Tyson his timing was way off and one of his best weapons his head movement was not there at all he was a punching bag.

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        • Hawkins
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          #104
          Originally posted by Burning Desire
          Im not Tyson fan at all but that was nowhere near prime Tyson his timing was way off and one of his best weapons his head movement was not there at all he was a punching bag.

          You can read dozens of posts that state that I wholeheartedly disagree.

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          • Brockton Lip
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            #105
            Originally posted by Burning Desire
            Tyson wins he has better defense quicker hands and hits harder it would be Cruiserweight vs Heavyweight.
            Yeah, sort of like Tyson against Holyfield.

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            • The Iron Man
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              #106
              But Holyfields weight was Heavyweight at the time...and Marciano fights nothing like Holyfield..and we are talking tyson at his best

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              • Hawkins
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                #107
                Originally posted by The Iron Man
                But Holyfields weight was Heavyweight at the time...and Marciano fights nothing like Holyfield..and we are talking tyson at his best
                You're right. Holyfield was a great boxer, who could brawl when needed, plus his fearlessness and counter punching is what really gave him the edge on Mike. Aside from the fearless aspect, Marciano was nothing like that at all.

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                • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Hawkins
                  Hey I don't know about you but as I watched that fight unfold that night I was speechless. Seriously, Tyson was my hero back then and I was stunned. Even now when you think back about it it still seems unreal. Especially considering what a pedestal Tyson was on compared to everyone else.
                  Yeah, I was shocked too. Me, my mom and dad were watching it together. All I can remember was, telling them he wasn't doing anything, he's going to get knocked out. When Tyson knocked Douglas down, I don't think I ever jumped so high. lol To most people, his loss was shocking but not a big deal. To me, it felt like something had been damaged in my life. lol If anyone was a bigger Tyson fan than me, it couldn't have been by much. I watched his fights over and over until I memorized everything they said. Tyson is the biggest letdown in boxing history, no doubt.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by RossCA
                    Yeah, I was shocked too. Me, my mom and dad were watching it together. All I can remember was, telling them he wasn't doing anything, he's going to get knocked out. When Tyson knocked Douglas down, I don't think I ever jumped so high. lol To most people, his loss was shocking but not a big deal. To me, it felt like something had been damaged in my life. lol If anyone was a bigger Tyson fan than me, it couldn't have been by much. I watched his fights over and over until I memorized everything they said. Tyson is the biggest letdown in boxing history, no doubt.
                    The sad part is, during his comeback after prison, you could see some of the old Tysom emerging (esp. in the Mathis/Golota fights). Some of the head/upper body movement was back and he wasn't wasting punches. Unfortunately it didn't last.

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                    • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Burning Desire
                      Actually Holmes admitted for the first time in his career he was scared against Tyson and Seldon wern't scared ?? he went down on a punch that didn't even land he was so scared it looked like he was going to pass out.
                      Seldon went down from a punch that landed high on the head, which effects balance. He then got clocked flush with a left hook to put him down again. I think it was his chin that was suspect more than anything else. Holmes like everyone else probably was scared but didn't fight that way. I think Berbick is a better example of not fighting scared then Seldon.

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