Bob Fitzsimmons vs. George Foreman

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  • Bucktown Beast
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    #71
    Originally posted by Yaman
    Like Buttfly would say: Ofcource, because you just got
    Seriously you had no chance from the start. have a nice day.
    Witty. Nice owned icon. You've earned your place in internet history by posting it. I proved you wrong in every aspect you dolt. You are like a ***** who gets abused by her boyfriend and keeps running back. I can't have an intelligible argument with someone who argues like a student who rides a blue bus to school. You are purposely disagreeing with everything because you don't know any better. Well, you don't know at all.

    We have supplied you with visual evidence of people getting lifted off their feet by punches and you are still denying it. Everything you are saying is asinine and backed up by nothing other than incoherence.

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    • butterfly1964
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      #72
      Originally posted by Yaman
      Like Buttfly would say: Ofcource, because you just got
      Seriously you had no chance from the start. have a nice day.
      Boy, you sure do like starting trouble, don't you? You have enough trouble as it is with scrappy. Don't make it harder on yourself by bringing me into this.

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      • Kid Achilles
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        #73
        The Galento shot looks like a legitimate instance of a punch lifting someone off the ground a few inches. An ultra rare sight in boxing. It looks to me like the Botha punch was more of a reflex; he was hit by Lewis and he kind of jumped up a little before falling down. The same with Frazier vs. Foreman.

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        • butterfly1964
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          #74
          Originally posted by Kid Achilles
          The Galento shot looks like a legitimate instance of a punch lifting someone off the ground a few inches. An ultra rare sight in boxing. It looks to me like the Botha punch was more of a reflex; he was hit by Lewis and he kind of jumped up a little before falling down. The same with Frazier vs. Foreman.
          Yeah, that makes sense.

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          • hemichromis
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            #75
            Originally posted by Kid Achilles
            The Galento shot looks like a legitimate instance of a punch lifting someone off the ground a few inches. An ultra rare sight in boxing. It looks to me like the Botha punch was more of a reflex; he was hit by Lewis and he kind of jumped up a little before falling down. The same with Frazier vs. Foreman.
            if your hit under the chin you legs and back straighten up thats what it looked like to me.
            beautiful shovel hook though

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              #76
              Originally posted by Kid Achilles
              I don't consider Foreman any stronger than Jeffries, and Fitz gave him a hell of a fight before he finally broke his hands on Jeffrie's granite skull. I would give Fitz a chance of pulling off an upset. He hit hard enough to hurt Foreman, or any man for that matter, IMO, but it would be difficult to cope with Foreman's reach and aggression.

              I'll go with Foreman but I can easily see him getting countered with those telegraphed punches and finding himself on his ass. A great hitter is a great hitter. Guys like Fitz and Langford proved they could hurt heavyweights over 200 lbs and you have to respect their punch as being strong even by heavyweight standards. Fitz was also very clever and a sharp, one punch knockout guy who could take you out with one to the head or body. I don't know how his stlye would deal with Foreman's "wrecking ball on two feet" assault, but I can guarantee you that if he lands his best punch of Foreman, Big George would be in trouble.
              - -Interesting.

              On paper the fight is terribly uncharitable to Fitz and couldn't be sanctioned today.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Underboss
                1897 rules--tiny gloves, no anti-clinching rules, "fight to the finish".

                Could Fitz use his superior style and tiny gloves to land the "one big punch" before Foreman could, or were George's abilities too powerful for even Fitz with his own rules to overcome?
                This is my kind of fight!

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                • Rusty Tromboni
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                  #78
                  Fitzsimmons Rd 1 KO, without even throwing a punch!



                  Pretty obvious I think, since older fighters are better than newer fighters, and size doesn't matter. The only reason this fight was proposed is because Fitz is White, and Big Joj is Black. If it were the other way around Fitz's victory would be so obvious, the match wouldn't have even been proposed.

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                  • Willie Pep 229
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                    Fitzsimmons Rd 1 KO, without even throwing a punch!



                    Pretty obvious I think, since older fighters are better than newer fighters, and size doesn't matter. The only reason this fight was proposed is because Fitz is White, and Big Joj is Black. If it were the other way around Fitz's victory would be so obvious, the match wouldn't have even been proposed.
                    Right!

                    If the proposed bout had been Foreman vs. (a 180 lb) Langford, half the poster on this forum would convince themselves that Langford would school Big George.

                    Neither Fitz nor Langford would see the other side of round two; Big George was simply too big for this match-up to be worth discussing. Never mind the fact that Foreman's footwork was a light year ahead of either fighter.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
                      Right!

                      If the proposed bout had been Foreman vs. (a 180 lb) Langford, half the poster on this forum would convince themselves that Langford would school Big George.

                      Neither Fitz nor Langford would see the other side of round two; Big George was simply too big for this match-up to be worth discussing. Never mind the fact that Foreman's footwork was a light year ahead of either fighter.
                      I take it you mean big and talented....'cause Bob kinda did KO a guy with very similar physical stats.

                      Ed Dunkhorst is a 2nd round KO for Fitzs that's easy to pass up but kinda interesting because he's one of them more modern sized guys that's nearly a hundred years too early to be much of anything.

                      George, 6'3" 220-260 ish lbs through his career

                      Ed 6'3" 230-260 ish pounds through his career.

                      He was called the Freight Car, I don't know why boxrec has his record so low, ring has him at 23-7-2 with 16 knockouts, which, is not terrible for the era, but not great, and awful short.

                      Anyway, too big and good, sure, too big, nah, Bob smoked a big fella almost mirror image of Big George in size and weight.

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