Bob Fitzsimmons vs. George Foreman

[Bucktown Beast]

And if there is video evidence, why won't you post it? I wanna see those guys getting lifted by punches.

I have some early fights of his on my computer that would **** u up fast, but I guess just go watch his annihilation of Ken Norton on Youtube...and grow up a little would ya when I say lifted off their feet I'm not talking "10 feet above the ring".

[Southpaw Stinger]

I'm pissed off rotoscope has been banned from youtube. Thats half of all the fights gone...

[BKM-]

I have some early fights of his on my computer that would **** u up fast, but I guess just go watch his annihilation of Ken Norton on Youtube...and grow up a little would ya when I say lifted off their feet I'm not talking "10 feet above the ring".

I know Foreman's fights trust me. He doesn't lift them off their feet with his punches, you can't even do that that to a 200+lb object with a sledgehammer. They're acclaimations of dazed, and not having any legs. Punches can do strange things to a fighter.

[Bucktown Beast]

I know Foreman's fights trust me. He doesn't lift them off their feet with his punches, you can't even do that that to a 200+lb object with a sledgehammer. They're acclaimations of dazed, and not having any legs. Punches can do strange things to a fighter.

Youre wrong man...I'm not talking about dazed and no legs. Foreman sent Norton ****in flying from power. I'm talking about FORCE. Force enough to make a person's feet lift off of the canvas from the impact of the punch. People don't react like Bluto to a Popeye spinached-up punch and go hurling over the ocean. So fix your vision for a second. What u are failing to realize is that its not just brute human stength that can potentially lift someone off their feet. its also a person's bodily REACTION to the force that can cause shock and semi-seizure of the legs. I've seen it. Its happened. Rare, but has happened. End of story.

Maybe you must have missed Lennox Lewis vs Francois Botha...he lifted that fat South African off his feet too.

But this debate his taken a left turn, I could care less about debating if someones feet left the canvas from a Foreman punch. Its ******.

Bottom line, theres no heavyweight of yesteryear that George Foreman could not potentially knock out. Most of the throwback fighters had little chance if any against young George. Fact. Foreman could be outboxed but heavyweights boxing skills were too crude back then...and theres few special fighters like Muhammad Ali that could withstand that kind of power.

[Brockton Lip]

Jeffries was nowhere near 190 pounds. He fought around 215-220 in his prime and that was after he intentionally lost weight because he liked the stamina and felt that he didn't lose much punching power.
I remember seeing a picture of Jeffries holding a deer on his back (although I thought it was a boar). He was a very strong, athletlic human being. To think its out of the question for him to be stronger or of equal strength to Foreman is not right.
This isn't even about a Jeffries-Foreman fight, but it was implied that Jeffries opponents were bums when stated 'bunch of farm hands and cowboys'. Jeffries took flush shots from Fitzsimmons and ended up knocking him out twice.
Fitzsimmons vs Foreman; I think it would go to Foreman. But I can see the upset as very possible.

[ben41193]

George forman by early ko.

[Bucktown Beast]

Jeffries was nowhere near 190 pounds. He fought around 215-220 in his prime and that was after he intentionally lost weight because he liked the stamina and felt that he didn't lose much punching power.
I remember seeing a picture of Jeffries holding a deer on his back (although I thought it was a boar). He was a very strong, athletlic human being. To think its out of the question for him to be stronger or of equal strength to Foreman is not right.
This isn't even about a Jeffries-Foreman fight, but it was implied that Jeffries opponents were bums when stated 'bunch of farm hands and cowboys'. Jeffries took flush shots from Fitzsimmons and ended up knocking him out twice.
Fitzsimmons vs Foreman; I think it would go to Foreman. But I can see the upset as very possible.

Bro I just don't see any situation where Jeffries wins. Calling him strong and athletic is relative and speculative. I'm sure he may have been but theres more legend and less evidence to support the great strength of his.

I rarely get in to debates about real old school against new school because I think as sports advance, so do the athletes. Send Ladanian back to 1940 NFL and he scores 10 touchdowns a game. Foreman in 1920 is a man playing with boys.

[ben41193]

April Fools aint for another month, stop playin around!

i dont think he is joking..................He usedto be my favorite poster but i think he as been doing alot of crack latley.

[butterfly1964]

jack Johnson got knocked out by the most talentless linear heavyweight champ of all times, how ****in sad is that. Yes, he has lost to a natural 140 pounder too.

Unless you give me documented proof that a 140lb. man knocked out Jack Johnson, then your argument holds no water.

Ali lost to Leon Spinks. Tyson got ko'd by Danny Williams. Lewis was clocked cold by McCall and Rahman. What's your point? They're called upsets, they do happen once in a while.

[Terry A]

[QUOTE=Scrappy Diggs;2188972] People don't react like Bluto to a Popeye spinached-up punch and go hurling over the ocean. What u are failing to realize is that its not just brute human stength that can potentially lift someone off their feet. its also a person's bodily REACTION to the force that can cause shock and semi-seizure of the legs. I've seen it.

Scrappy Diggs,
I've only been here a month, but you are BY FAR the most entertaining and super fuuniest writer I ever read. Not just on some forum either. Anywhere.
You have a God given talent for writing funny stuff. What's more, you also KNOW your stuff.
When I read the now famous "he would punch him in the chest and his shoulders would touch", my cheeks hurt from laughing so hard. But I almost passed out laughing with the "Popeye spinached up punch" gem. Totally priceless!!!
Keep up the great work!