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    #41
    Dempsey howveer was a true Legend, and still(Most of his fans died out, i mean the ones who called him the greatest, and new fighters like Louis, Ali, Marciano etc, have taken many people's hearts as being the Greatest) has many people who put him very high. He has a legendrary legacy, and that alone is enough for the Top 10 imo.

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    • LondonRingRules
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      #42
      Originally posted by brownpimp88
      no i'm not, the other 10 guys on the list are better, its as simple as that.
      ** It's simple for a simpleton, that's simple enough.

      You don't count Holy's losses against him, 8 losses in 50 fights, 10-5-2 in heavy title fights. Some great comp, but not always great results.

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      • brownpimp88
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        #43
        Originally posted by LondonRingRules
        ** It's simple for a simpleton, that's simple enough.

        You don't count Holy's losses against him, 8 losses in 50 fights, 10-5-2 in heavy title fights. Some great comp, but not always great results.
        4 of those losses came when he was 39 and over, lol.

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          #44
          Originally posted by brownpimp88
          no i'm not, the other 10 guys on the list are better, its as simple as that.

          Hey butterfly, holyfield beat tyson twice, bowe, moorer, buster douglas, pinklon thomas, michael dokes, qawi twice,larry holmes, george foreman, ray mercer and several other guys. Why should i rank liston higher? Cuz he beat floyd twice, be realistic ok, holy has the better resume.
          Liston destroyed Floyd Patterson twice, Cleveland Williams twice, Zora Folley, beat Eddie machen, Bethea, DeJohn, and just about every heavyweigth that mattered at the time. He beat his opponents more convincingly that Holyfield beat his, plus a lot of Holy's comp were past their primes. Liston beat the crop of heavyweights in his day when they all were in their primes.

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            #45
            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            Liston destroyed Floyd Patterson twice, Cleveland Williams twice, Zora Folley, beat Eddie machen, Bethea, DeJohn, and just about every heavyweigth that mattered at the time. He beat his opponents more convincingly that Holyfield beat his, plus a lot of Holy's comp were past their primes. Liston beat the crop of heavyweights in his day when they all were in their primes.
            I'm sorry bro, holyfiled has the better resume whether you like it or not.

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              #46
              Originally posted by brownpimp88
              I'm sorry bro, holyfiled has the better resume whether you like it or not.
              Against foreman and Holmes both were over 40. A layoff-ridden Tyson, a fat unmotivated Buster Douglass, yeah great wins. Plus Thomas and mercer are not in the class of Floyd Patterson, Cleveland Williams, and Eddie Machen.

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                #47
                Originally posted by butterfly1964
                Against foreman and Holmes both were over 40. A layoff-ridden Tyson, a fat unmotivated Buster Douglass, yeah great wins. Plus Thomas and mercer are not in the class of Floyd Patterson, Cleveland Williams, and Eddie Machen.
                what makes eddie machen and cleveland williams so special, lol they just contenders pal nothing more. That 1996 tyson would have still ko'd floyd patterson, rid**** bowe would kick floyd's ass too.

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                • Kid Achilles
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                  #48
                  So all contenders are created equal. Except the ones Tyson fought, they were special. All that coke gave them the edge, didn't it?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                    So all contenders are created equal. Except the ones Tyson fought, they were special. All that coke gave them the edge, didn't it?


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                      #50
                      Originally posted by butterfly1964


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                      yep dodge the question, u know bowe and tyson would smash patterson 10/10 times.

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