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Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Postdude the walcott ur talking about went 7-7 during that time frame, yeah thats not too good. The holyfield that lewis fought was the #1 ranked heavyweight in the world. The tyson he fought was a ranked contender. Lennox Lewis beat tony tucker, razor ruddock, tommy morrison, david tua, vitali klitchko, michael grant, ray mercer, holyfield, tyson, golota. His resume is incredible, why people hate on him, i dont know.
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Originally posted by K-DOGG View PostI'm not "hating" on anyone. I rank Lewis in at #7 all time. I'm just stating that Holyfield was no spring chicken by the time he faced Lewis...and wen 2-6-1 in his next 9 fights....truthfully should have been 1-8, with his only win coming over Rahman. He was done.
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Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Postfirst of all, you can actually debate that he won the 2nd lewis fight, he beat ruiz the first time, i saw it myself. The thing that matters is that he was coming off 5 wins heading INTO the fight. Will floyd's win over de la hoya mean **** if oscar loses 3 straight after this? Everytime holyfield wins a close decision or gets a draw, you just give it to the other person, i call that hating.
...that's two top contenders, one fat middlweight/light-havy (who he couldn't even drop) and one pretender.....so Holy was a top contender......but still on the down side, as he had been since the first Moorer fight.
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Originally posted by K-DOGG View PostThe second Lewis fight was Evander's last great stand IMO; but I still had him losing. Ruiz kicked his ass in the first fight and the judges robbed him blind. And I don't care who it is, if I feel a fighter "lost" a draw, I'm stating as such. Holy's five wins coming into the first Lewis....Bobby Czyz, Mike Tyson, Bite Tyson, Michael Moorer, and Vaugh "Freakin'" Bean.
...that's two top contenders, one fat middlweight/light-havy (who he couldn't even drop) and one pretender.....so Holy was a top contender......but still on the down side, as he had been since the first Moorer fight.
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Really? I don't agree. Walcott pretty much beat Louis the first time around, so says just about anyone in attendance. Louis wasn't at his very best athleticism wise but he still had great skill and heart and was better than Tyson was at that point IMO. A knockout victory and decision win over Ezzard Charles are impressive victories as well.
I would say Walcott and Holyfield are pretty damn close in terms of greatness. I think Walcott looks more impressive on film. Better and sharper punch, more elusive, smoother mover etc. Holyfield had a great chin, which is significant, especially at heavyweight, but I think Walcott was more skilled and talented.
Both guys are right outside the top ten IMO.
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Originally posted by brownpimp88 View PostWalcott and Shcmeling arent even in thier league. They dont deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as tyson, holy, bowe and lennox.
The post prison Tyson could have been, and more than likely would have been outboxed and countered to death by both Walcott and Schmeling.
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Originally posted by K-DOGG View PostOh please! You better go back and watch some footage. Bowe doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as a Schmeling or a Walcott...both would box his ears off. Who, besides Holyfield, did Bowe EVER beat? Who?!
The post prison Tyson could have been, and more than likely would have been outboxed and countered to death by both Walcott and Schmeling.
Bowe has beat plenty of ranked contenders, he doesnt get ko'd and lose to guys with ****ty records.
The fact that you think tyson would have lost to walcott just shows ur vulnerabilty, tyson would have knocked him out in 2 rounds. Walcott losses to virtually every good fighter he faces.
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